2025 NFL Offseason/Draft Thread

perkdog

@Basebal21 said:
Good pick by the Raiders and glad to see what was known for a while. > @perkdog said:

@Maywood said:
@perkdog, since Tom Brady is supposedly involved in player evaluation and selection it may tell the NFL an awful lot if the Raiders skip him.

I gotta agree with you

I'm wrong I thought Sanders was going with their pick

Will he even get drafted lol

He will at some point unless the NFL players just hate him more than has been reported. Silo wont or shouldnt at least unless Deion calls in a favor

The whole thing is weird and surprising to me,

Steven59

@Maywood said:
Round 2 complete, one QB taken and his name wasn't Sheduer Sanders. Watch the kid make it to round 4.

WOW! Talk about "Putting him in his place"

galaxy27

feels like we're almost in blackball territory

Basebal21

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:
Good pick by the Raiders and glad to see what was known for a while. > @perkdog said:

@Maywood said:
@perkdog, since Tom Brady is supposedly involved in player evaluation and selection it may tell the NFL an awful lot if the Raiders skip him.

I gotta agree with you

I'm wrong I thought Sanders was going with their pick

Will he even get drafted lol

He will at some point unless the NFL players just hate him more than has been reported. Silo wont or shouldnt at least unless Deion calls in a favor

The whole thing is weird and surprising to me,

I think the NFL teams are just seeing through the marketing and are hearing things from players

The Louisville QB going before Ewers surprised me the most other than the first TE off the board

erikthredd

Shedeur is still sitting around waiting?

Love the pick of WR Kyle Williams by the Pats, they could use another burner on offense. Looks like they traded back from their next pick which should be up in about 10-15mins.

Maywood

He's not being black-balled, he's just paying for all the BS hype he put out with a lot of help from his father. Add that to the fact that maybe, just maybe, once everybody had to take a really good look at him they saw through the BS hype. What they saw was a QB that wasn't very good in a class of QB's that isn't very good.

That's an aspect of all this that never gets mentioned. Who was Sanders compared to?? He's compared to the other QB's coming out. This isn't 1983, he can't be compared to Elway, Blackledge, Kelly, Eason, O'Brien, and Marino. He's compared to Ward, Dart, Slough, Howard and Milroe. Is it any wonder teams are opting for better players at different positions??

Maybe Sanders gets picked with one of the 6 compensatory picks at the end of this round. That would be fitting.

erikthredd

I love what Chicago has done on offense and damn them for stealing my BC tackle. 👎
Houston too, they grabbed both Iowa State wideouts Higgins & Noel.

Maywood

At the halfway point of round three and teams do what they do, pick DB's, linemen on both sides and WR's. Seems like what's become a typical draft to me.

erikthredd

Jalen Milroe to the Seahawks. Browns & Pats up next.

Basebal21

Dont love that pick but has value to move him around

erikthredd

The Browns are drafting Oregon QB Dillon Gabriel.

erikthredd

The pats draft a Georgia center to replace a Georgia center. Jared Wilson replaces Dave Andrews.

So got the best Tackle and best Center to help protect Drake Maye, love it.

GroceryRackPack

@galaxy27

hey ya galaxy... 🌌🌃🌠

I probably won't get the Chicago Sun Times tomorrow...

here ya go...

erikthredd

😂😂😂😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oe37bjx81Y

Maywood

So @perkdog, it looks like the Browns got a QB but it wasn't Sanders. To me it's a wasted pick of the "flyer" type because Gabriel is just too small to be a successful NFL QB, tipping the scales at 5'11" and 203 lbs., not really anywhere near a prototypical QB.

Maywood

The next question is: Will Sheduer Sanders be drafted??

I believe someone will pick him but there is a tipping point, a point at which any logical person would take him off of their board and choose another person. That would probably be somewhere in the 5th round.

perkdog

@Maywood said:
So @perkdog, it looks like the Browns got a QB but it wasn't Sanders. To me it's a wasted pick of the "flyer" type because Gabriel is just too small to be a successful NFL QB, tipping the scales at 5'11" and 203 lbs., not really anywhere near a prototypical QB.

I saw that lol

It's stupid honestly, no reason why the Browns didn't try Sanders there.

To grab that kid who probably won't make it out of training camp over Sanders is ridiculous, I understand the hype BS but they could have thrown a better dart.

I think they are really blackballing him at this point, maybe he actually won't get drafted

Milroe, Hough, Gabriel going before Sanders means he is being blackballed, not a single NFL scouting report or mock draft has any of those guys remotely near Sanders.

perkdog

I thought Jack Sawyer would have been drafted by now as well

perkdog

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/shedeur-sanders-was-prank-called-during-the-draft-on-friday-night

This is just cruel lol

GroceryRackPack

@perkdog said:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/shedeur-sanders-was-prank-called-during-the-draft-on-friday-night

This is just cruel lol

If I could sound like Pete Rozelle...

I'd be calling you...

The New England Patriots has selected: Perkdog...

Then I'd switch characters and be like Johnny Olson...

and say: Come on down...

😂🤣🙃

Maywood

Probably Sanders’ flaws were exposed and along with the things he said leading up to the draft made him a risk not worth taking.

perkdog

If he does end up getting drafted and becomes a starter who is good then be prepared for his "I got receipts" and all that coach prime jibber jabber from last year

It's quite possible and it will be insufferable lol

perkdog

https://nypost.com/2025/04/24/sports/shedeur-sanders-has-custom-draft-room-built-ahead-of-2025-nfl-draft/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=referral

Now it's making sense, he is above the process

I had no idea he had his own draft room lol

galaxy27

when guys like Milroe, Slough and Gabriel are being selected over someone who many thought wouldn't last past the third pick, we've blown past it being a talent issue -- it's an indictment of the family name. no team wants any part of the Sanders circus, and that's exactly what it's going to be for whoever ultimately (reluctantly?) takes him.

if he......and his dad......and his brothers..........had a penchant for shutting their mouths and being humble, he wouldn't be in this predicament, period. but they don't. it's all pomp and circumstance, all the time.

sometimes in life you get what you deserve

perkdog

@galaxy27 said:
when guys like Milroe, Slough and Gabriel are being selected over someone who many thought wouldn't last past the third pick, we've blown past it being a talent issue -- it's an indictment of the family name. no team wants any part of the Sanders circus, and that's exactly what it's going to be for whoever ultimately (reluctantly?) takes him.

if he......and his dad......and his brothers..........had a penchant for shutting their mouths and being humble, he wouldn't be in this predicament, period. but they don't. it's all pomp and circumstance, all the time.

sometimes in life you get what you deserve

Facts

erikthredd

@perkdog said:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/24/sports/shedeur-sanders-has-custom-draft-room-built-ahead-of-2025-nfl-draft/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=referral

Now it's making sense, he is above the process

I had no idea he had his own draft room lol

I posted a video of it in my previous comment above.

It’s definitely his lack of humility that has him in this situation.

perkdog

@erikthredd said:

@perkdog said:
https://nypost.com/2025/04/24/sports/shedeur-sanders-has-custom-draft-room-built-ahead-of-2025-nfl-draft/?utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=referral

Now it's making sense, he is above the process

I had no idea he had his own draft room lol

I posted a video of it in my previous comment above.

It’s definitely his lack of humility that has him in this situation.

Weird I. missed that and yes the lack of humility is glaring

erikthredd

@perkdog said:
I thought Jack Sawyer would have been drafted by now as well

We're going to be 4th on the clock once things get kicked off at noon and we need a pass rusher (or two.) He's also the closest fascimile to Mike Vrabel in this draft. I wouldn't mind seeing his OSU teammate, linebacker Cody Simon, as a possible pick as well. There are still a ton of really good Edge rushers & defensive tackles still available.

galaxy27

here's an interesting read. Sanders apparently had a number of private pre-draft meetings that did not go well. Brian Daboll of the Giants stopped just short of calling him an unprepared, entitled punk

edit: listen to the clip by McShay

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2025/04/26/new-york-giants-brian-daboll-bad-experience-shedeur-sanders-private-meeting/83292463007/

Maywood

And you guys are just finding this out now?? It's been all over the sports news, right there with the "pundits" who are furious that he hasn't been drafted. I watched a show where some guy wouldn't even talk about 'cause he was that mad Sanders hadn't been picked.

erikthredd

Wow! Shedeur Sanders to the Cleveland Browns.

Sorry Al, my condolences...

stevek

The team that drafted Johnny Manziel. LOL

Some teams never seem to learn.

perkdog

It would be epic if Sanders refused to play for them 😂😂😂

Maywood

And the team that never seems to do the right thing drafts the player that nobody wants. I give up. Fire up the drama machine.

SanctionII

I saw a news report this AM that a former Congressman (the guy who pulled the fire alarm in the Capital, while the House Of Representatives was in session) spoke to the media and in summary stated that the failure of NFL teams to draft Sanders is because because of the .................. ism......... that starts with an R.

It is so tiring to hear this.

I suspect that Sanders not getting drafted so far is due to all the negative things that have been talked about other than .......... ism. If what has been talked about is true, Sanders may end up traveling the same general path (a flash that quickly washed out) that Johnny Manziel did. Manziel had multiple negative aspects to him.

If Sanders does not get drafted he will likely be signed as an undrafted free agent and given a chance to show what he can do (both on the field [likely really good?] and off the field [a big question mark and possibly not good at all or even bad]).

If that happens to him he will have an opportunity to mature into a person who is worthy of the respect and accolades that he likely thinks he already has but does not.

erikthredd

@SanctionII He got drafted by the Browns.

SanctionII

After typing and posting my reply I checked the NET and saw that Sanders was drafted in the 5th round by the Browns. Here is hoping that he ends up doing well in Cleveland; and that having him on the roster is a good move for Cleveland (and its fans, including Maywood).

SanctionII

erikthredd.

My neurons and fingers are in slo mo today Thanks for the update.

perkdog

https://x.com/ESPNCleveland/status/1916198006770270365

Well he showed excitement when his name was called, Browns had a good draft and they might have gotten a steal with Sanders and make @Maywood smile

Maywood

The Browns have now set the stage for a fairly robust QB competition in training camp with a roster full:
Kenny Picket --- probably the "bubble" guy and may not even make it to camp.
Joe Flacco --- projected starter and inevitable mentor. Age aside, Flacco is still talented and has seen it all. That matters.
--- This is where it gets dicey and where the real competition will be. I suspect the season may start with both guys on the roster.
Dillon Gabriel
Sheduer Sanders

Steven59

2 QBs and 2 RB's drafted for the Browns - should be interesting

erikthredd

@Steven59 said:
2 QBs and 2 RB's drafted for the Browns - should be interesting

Judkins & Sampson are going to be an entertaining duo, sort of like how the OSU backfield looked this past season. They also added a playmaker at TE with Harold Fannin.

As far as the two QBs go, Shedeur comes in having been humbled in front of the entire NFL world and everytime that his head starts to get too big, just give QB reps to that lesser QB that you drafted before him. Sanders will get the picture.

On the other side of the ball Graham and that LB whose name I won't butcher both look like they could be high end starters down the road. Add in the fact that they also came away with the Jags #1 next year, you could view this as a really good overall draft. If Shedeur can develop into a serviceable starting QB, at the very least, this could turn out to be a great draft by the Browns.

Steven59

@erikthredd

I was thinking more on the line of the Browns packaging Chubb and one of their drafted QBs for a legit starter wether it be O or D - guess we'll find out. Funny how the Browns (lately) don't have a QB now they have 4 -

erikthredd

@Steven59 said:
@erikthredd

I was thinking more on the line of the Browns packaging Chubb and one of their drafted QBs for a legit starter wether it be O or D - guess we'll find out. Funny how the Browns (lately) don't have a QB now they have 4 -

As in a trade? If that's what you meant, I think Chubb is still a free agent. If they did bring him back he'd probably be a great mentor for those two rookies RBs that you just drafted though.

Having four QBs is a good thing to have when there isn't one that stands head & shoulders above the rest, usually a situation like that will create a higher level of competition between the group. Didn't the Browns just make the playoffs not to long ago after having a bunch of different QBs start for them throughout the season? Who knows, maybe Sanders ends up becoming that starter for them and if he doesn't pan out, it only cost you a mid round pick.

Steven59

Kinda makes sense..........

GroceryRackPack

Basebal21

Sanders going to Cleveland is very funny considering he said he didnt want to play there and his dad tweeted that any QB they draft should pull an Eli not that long ago. Even funnier he wont be getting paid that much. I dont like the Gabriel pick, I dont really like left handed QBs in general but hes better than anything they have other than Watson.

Miami might have gotten the two biggest steal of the draft with Ollie and Ewers. I get the medicals scared teams off of Ewers and not the greatest for Miami having two injury prone QBs now but at that point of the draft hes worth the risk. Ollie is much better than his stats last year show

Steven59

@Basebal21
" he said he didnt want to play there and his dad tweeted that any QB they draft should pull an Eli not that long ago."
Pops said that in 2018 - and after being snubbed for so long in the draft I bet "They all" are happy and ain't gonna be pouting!

Steven59

Even though it happened on Friday - "There ain't no party like an NFL Draft Party"

Former NFL MVP Adrian Peterson was arrested for fourth-degree driving while impaired early Friday (April 25) morning, hours after attending the Minnesota Vikings' 2025 NFL Draft party,

Basebal21

@Steven59 said:
@Basebal21
" he said he didnt want to play there and his dad tweeted that any QB they draft should pull an Eli not that long ago."
Pops said that in 2018 - and after being snubbed for so long in the draft I bet "They all" are happy and ain't gonna be pouting!

That tweet was certainly from 2018 from Deion but they had stuff more recently that wasnt a tweet. Im sure at that point that he had been drafted and he clearly has no power to try and force any moves at this point. Im guessing Pickett is going to get cut or some attempt to trade him for anything they can get