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Diggin these two acquisitions from earlier today
mon1ck
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21 looked interesting but I loooove the strike on that Oregon trail half! Sorry, that is just cat hair on the outside of the 2 x 2 for the peace as well!
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What stands out to you about the strike on the half? Why do you think it is exceptional or anything other than normal?
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@mon1ck No new stuff, tell us about your submissions first.
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According to him, he had a submission at the grading stage last month:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1112330/first-time-pcgs-submitter-what-do-i-expect-while-in-the-grading-phase#latest
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No grudge. You promised. Just sayin'.
These are much better than them two silver dollars from the other thread
Unfortunately, you seem to be in the wrong place here.
This is a forum for collectors of coins in PCGS slabs. Please show us some coins you have bought in PCGS slabs. We would love to see them.
True, this is a forum for collectors of coins. But surely you know that they need not be in PCGS slabs.
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Congratulations, you're enjoying the hobby.
The 21 looks fake to me. The Oregon trail looks fine.
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sanddollar who were you before your most recent banning?
It all depends upon what you paid. The 1921 Peace Dollar is most commonly collected in AU or better. The Oregon Trail is typically collected in Mint State because it’s quite common in that grade.
Years ago I was happy with a Stone Mountain commemorative half dollar in AU at $40. Then I acquired an MS-65. I sold the AU for a minor profit. If I’d paid $75 for the AU, I would have lost money.
Honest working coins. If you get a chance post a picture of the cat. I am very fond of those too. james
I like both: nice circulated coins.
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The 1921 has the artificially toned or 'antiqued' look seen on many modern counterfeits. What I find odd is the 1921 has great details but no evident luster. An AU or higher coin should have luster unless messed with or fake.
Congrats on your purchases mon1ck (depending on price paid) +++ but they must have been alright if you like them
I also have suspicions regarding the authenticity of the 1921 Peace Dollar.
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I think the best thing I'd submit them. Then you know for sure.
Good luck!
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Pretty sure (99.99%) the '21 Peace is fake.
The Oregon looks fine, but nothing exceptional. Decent look for a criculated grade though.
Might be a good idea to learn more and spend less first.
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I disagree. It would likely be much quicker and less costly to get an opinion from a local dealer.
And if, sooner, rather than later, the coin’s confirmed as a counterfeit, it should make a refund more likely.
@mon1ck , I strongly recommend showing both coins to a local dealer.
I think there’s a strong chance that the 1921 dollar is counterfeit. Additionally, the pictures of the Oregon half aren’t clear enough to allow for a good look at it. And if it’s from the same seller, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s also a copy.
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Any ethical business should take a return if the coin is a counterfeit, preferably in the original 2x2. I bought a US silver eagle from a New Hampshire pawn shop. The guy said "all sales final", no return. I filed a complaint with the state which said that business is full of risks and they would not take action. A local pawn shop in VT told me he bought some fake silver eagles on ebay and did not even bother with the return and threw them out.
You are right, Mark. What I should have said was "This is a forum for coin collectors who see the value of having PCGS slabs."
If you dnnt already have one, Get yourself a digital scale that read to 2 decimals. Silver and Gold coins will have a standard weight with a tolerance from mint state to basal state (lowball)
if your coins are outside this tolerance then they should be suspect!
Also a strong magnet can detect some fakes as many are made with base and ferris metals.
I think the 1921 dont look right - Ide weight it and stick a magnet to it first things first
It's all about what the people want...
And sometimes PCGS slabs provide negative value, at least for the submitter. I know I've had my share of negative ROI coins come back from their Newport Beach vacation.
I think the 21 is authentic.
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Collectors are looking for Mint State Examples of these coins.
Yes but not all collectors.
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That 1921 Peace dollar has exceptional eye appeal, @BillJones!
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It should weigh 26.73 grams for an UNC Peace dollar. Slightly less for a worn example.
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This guy's posted what? Three threads where all his coins are fake.
Are we going to keep giving this troll attention?
The substantial truth doctrine is an important defense in defamation law that allows individuals to avoid liability if the gist of their statement was true.
But we would expect nothing less than from @BillJones. Thank you both for participating on this board.
No, he hasn’t posted only counterfeit coins.
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What is your resistance to buying coins graded by PCGS or even NGC?
I sort of this this is a slickcoin alt.
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I tend to agree here. Maybe not all fake coins, but certainly not even someone who knows what they are talking about.
Time to put this keyboard punk on iggy IMO
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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@RiveraFamilyCollect said:
This guy's posted what? Three threads where all his coins are fake.
Are we going to keep giving this troll attention?
@MFeld said: “No, he hasn’t posted only counterfeit coins.”
@RiveraFamilyCollect said: “The substantial truth doctrine is an important defense in defamation law that allows individuals to avoid liability if the gist of their statement was true.”
@MFeld said: “The substantial truth doctrine wouldn’t save you, either. It appears that he’s posted more genuine coins than those whose authenticity some forum members have questioned. Therefore, the gist of your statement was a far cry from including merely minor inaccuracies.”
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Did someone say "gar"?
They did, indeed and have since edited it to “far”. Thanks.
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Yea, one of the two coins in this thread may be real, unclear to me. But I do know that this guys responds to people like this.
He is very hostile on top of posting in a manner I consider to be trolling.
I get that me saying every coin is a fake is hyperbole, but I dont think I have an incorrect read of this situation.
The substantial truth doctrine is an important defense in defamation law that allows individuals to avoid liability if the gist of their statement was true.
I would have left it as is; it feels at home in this thread somehow.
Beautiful coins worthy of being proud to own.
A fine set of acquisitions.
Could be. So far on this message board though...
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