@JeffMTampa said:
Small raised portion of the die.
Thanks for the clarification, Jeff. You earlier stated
In 1900 there were Hub changes made to the Barber series; the dimes included. Call it a "makeover". In the process of revamping the Dime reverse the concept of overlapping leaves was lost in the area of question... .What really happened is someone that didn't understand the design and re-engraved that area. The "valley" connected to the hole was now lost (which created the overlapping leaves design). The area now became very odd looking, the "hole" disjointed serving no purpose.
@JeffMTampa said:
Small raised portion of the die.
Thanks for the clarification, Jeff.
So the hole was created in error, on purpose.
"Error" signifies prior knowledge (I knew what to do but I did it wrong). What Jeff is saying there was no prior knowledge by the person who did the re-engraving.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice '93 Tim @sedulous Here's one I have in my Dansco that I picked up at an auction about 5 years ago. Not sure if it'd straight grade or if the toning on the reverse is terminal:
@GotTheBug said:
It's been a while since I added a Barber half to my collection. Here's the latest newp, from eBay.
PCGS VF35
How difficult is the set to complete in VF? Are the coins graded that you need?
If I wanted to complete the set with little regard for quality I could just throw money at it and be done in a week, so to complete (most of) it in VF with graded coins would not be difficult. However, to find the nice ones in VF is not easy. There is a lot of competition and the nicer coins do not exist in quantity. I am trying to be patient and so it's a coin here and a coin there.
Tom B.'s website has an article that he wrote some years ago about Barber half dollars - a recommended read for anyone who is thinking about collecting mid-grade, circulated Barber halves.
Edited to add (most of) in the text. Some of the scarcer coins are not so easy in VF but more accessible in lower grades.
Love that article by @TomB and his commentary on the "fabric" of a coin. Someday I would really like to put together a raw set in EF......Ain't no way I'm gonna complete them in MS before I depart! I was struck by the beauty and originality of this one over the weekend. This is the Ex. Duckor coin.
@Eldorado9 said:
Love that article by @TomB and his commentary on the "fabric" of a coin. Someday I would really like to put together a raw set in EF......Ain't no way I'm gonna complete them in MS before I depart! I was struck by the beauty and originality of this one over the weekend. This is the Ex. Duckor coin.
Hi Tim,
You are correct on the 1900-S and as far as the 1894-S I couldn't see any RPM,also I looked in the BCCS Quarters varieties the "94-S wasn't listed.
I am getting ready to send this 11S off for grading and after more careful review of the reverse, it looks like strike doubling, but I wanted to run it by a few of the experts. I didnt see a variety in my CPG or on the grading services.
@Redglobe said:
Hi Tim,
You are correct on the 1900-S and as far as the 1894-S I couldn't see any RPM,also I looked in the BCCS Quarters varieties the "94-S wasn't listed.
The known S/S mintmark is a centered mintmark only discovered in the last few years. The BCCS Varieties team is always on the lookout for RPM's though and nothing is better than having the coin in hand for viewing (the guesstimate or inquiry was based off your image). I will say I only have one far right 1894-S and a good number of center-MM specimens in my collection. I obviously would not be able to say if that reflects or parallel's the overall population.
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@Redglobe said:
Both of the 94s I have are far right,so It would only be on the middle S location for the RPM?
Rob,
Here are some images from the discovery specimen. Centered mintmark version. This coin happens to unfortunately be AU Cleaned Details but still a decent looker.
RPM Variety: starting with the upper trumpet serif, with the right lighting, you can see two S mintmarks. The same can be seen with the lower serif and a slight recut loop just inside the lower bowl of the prominent S.
This one being recent from not too many years ago tells me there are more to be found if we keep looking more closely at our coins.
1894-S/S East (Slightly Twisted?) PCGS AU Details Cleaned
Full Images
Tim
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
1896-S has a total of 8 graded AU58 and 35 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $12,750.00
1909-O has a total of 6 graded AU58 and 58 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is a paltry $5,000.00
1913-S has a total of 6 graded AU58 and 73 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is a whopping $15,000.00
I think even though my price is well over price guide it's a bargain compared to the others!
1901-O has a total of 8 graded AU58 and 42 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $2,200.00
1899-S has a total of 24 graded AU58 and 44 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,350.00
1898-S has a total of 20 graded AU58 and 46 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,150.00
1896-O has a total of 25 graded AU58 and 47 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,350.00
1898-O has a total of 36 graded AU58 and 58 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,100.00
The only coin on your list that should/could be on your list is the 1901-O. The others aren't even in the ballpark! I will make a standing offer of at least double price guide for an AU58 1901-O if you find one before I do. There are 2 I won't consider: The one Gerry Fortin had only had 1/2 a mintmark and Feldman's isn't as nice as the 55 I have.
Oh, and that 1909-O has the Green Bean which you covet so!
@shish said:
The seller asked me to post this response to you.
The only coin on your list that should/could be on your list is the 1901-O. The others aren't even in the ballpark! I will make a standing offer of at least double price guide for an AU58 1901-O if you find one before I do. There are 2 I won't consider: The one Gerry Fortin had only had 1/2 a mintmark and Feldman's isn't as nice as the 55 I have.
"1/2 a mintmark?" "Feldman's?" DLRC does have an AU55 @ $2,225.
@shish said:
The seller asked me to post this response to you.
The only coin on your list that should/could be on your list is the 1901-O. The others aren't even in the ballpark! I will make a standing offer of at least double price guide for an AU58 1901-O if you find one before I do. There are 2 I won't consider: The one Gerry Fortin had only had 1/2 a mintmark and Feldman's isn't as nice as the 55 I have.
"1/2 a mintmark?" "Feldman's?" DLRC does have an AU55 @ $2,225.
I think I have seen that coin. If memory serves correctly, the upper-half of the mintmark got a ding or a hit looking like half the mintmark is missing.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@shish said:
The seller asked me to post this response to you.
The only coin on your list that should/could be on your list is the 1901-O. The others aren't even in the ballpark! I will make a standing offer of at least double price guide for an AU58 1901-O if you find one before I do. There are 2 I won't consider: The one Gerry Fortin had only had 1/2 a mintmark and Feldman's isn't as nice as the 55 I have.
"1/2 a mintmark?" "Feldman's?" DLRC does have an AU55 @ $2,225.
I think I have seen that coin. If memory serves correctly, the upper-half of the mintmark got a ding or a hit looking like half the mintmark is missing.
Comments
Thanks for the clarification, Jeff. You earlier stated
In 1900 there were Hub changes made to the Barber series; the dimes included. Call it a "makeover". In the process of revamping the Dime reverse the concept of overlapping leaves was lost in the area of question... .What really happened is someone that didn't understand the design and re-engraved that area. The "valley" connected to the hole was now lost (which created the overlapping leaves design). The area now became very odd looking, the "hole" disjointed serving no purpose.
So the hole was created in error, on purpose.
"Error" signifies prior knowledge (I knew what to do but I did it wrong). What Jeff is saying there was no prior knowledge by the person who did the re-engraving.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice '93 Tim @sedulous Here's one I have in my Dansco that I picked up at an auction about 5 years ago. Not sure if it'd straight grade or if the toning on the reverse is terminal:
It's been a while since I added a Barber half to my collection. Here's the latest newp, from eBay.
PCGS VF35
How difficult is the set to complete in VF? Are the coins graded that you need?
If I wanted to complete the set with little regard for quality I could just throw money at it and be done in a week, so to complete (most of) it in VF with graded coins would not be difficult. However, to find the nice ones in VF is not easy. There is a lot of competition and the nicer coins do not exist in quantity. I am trying to be patient and so it's a coin here and a coin there.
Tom B.'s website has an article that he wrote some years ago about Barber half dollars - a recommended read for anyone who is thinking about collecting mid-grade, circulated Barber halves.
Edited to add (most of) in the text. Some of the scarcer coins are not so easy in VF but more accessible in lower grades.
http://www.tbnumismatics.com/circulated-barber-half-dollars-a-look-back-at-two-decades-of-specialization.html
Love that article by @TomB and his commentary on the "fabric" of a coin. Someday I would really like to put together a raw set in EF......Ain't no way I'm gonna complete them in MS before I depart! I was struck by the beauty and originality of this one over the weekend. This is the Ex. Duckor coin.
@Eldorado9 Beautiful and tough!
The best articles come from passionate collectors @TomB
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
GRADE?
FAKE article: 1899 Barber Half
https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/13817/counterfeit-detection-1899-half-dollar/?utm_source=NGC&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=25_NGC_Proof_0318
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
A couple of San Fransisco upgrades..
Does that '94-S have a repunched mintmark? @Redglobe
Nice coins. The '00-S is a Ty I/II it seems.
Thanks for sharing Rob.
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Hi Tim,
You are correct on the 1900-S and as far as the 1894-S I couldn't see any RPM,also I looked in the BCCS Quarters varieties the "94-S wasn't listed.
I am getting ready to send this 11S off for grading and after more careful review of the reverse, it looks like strike doubling, but I wanted to run it by a few of the experts. I didnt see a variety in my CPG or on the grading services.
Looks like shelf doubling to me…
Machine doubling
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
The known S/S mintmark is a centered mintmark only discovered in the last few years. The BCCS Varieties team is always on the lookout for RPM's though and nothing is better than having the coin in hand for viewing (the guesstimate or inquiry was based off your image). I will say I only have one far right 1894-S and a good number of center-MM specimens in my collection. I obviously would not be able to say if that reflects or parallel's the overall population.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Both of the 94s I have are far right,so It would only be on the middle S location for the RPM?
Rob,
Here are some images from the discovery specimen. Centered mintmark version. This coin happens to unfortunately be AU Cleaned Details but still a decent looker.
RPM Variety: starting with the upper trumpet serif, with the right lighting, you can see two S mintmarks. The same can be seen with the lower serif and a slight recut loop just inside the lower bowl of the prominent S.
This one being recent from not too many years ago tells me there are more to be found if we keep looking more closely at our coins.
1894-S/S East (Slightly Twisted?) PCGS AU Details Cleaned
Full Images
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
To my eye it's very subtle..to me the S looks fatter then the normal S
Here’s my ‘94 S BQ RPMM:
I was going through some old boxes of coins laying around, looking to sell some things. I came across this:
Does anyone else have one?
I don't think Charles Barber ever envisioned this
That copper "barber" seems to be toning nicely.
Just noticed this listing by a seller:
1909-O Barber Quarter 25c PCGS Certified AU58 CAC $7,995.00
Here are some population numbers to ponder:
1896-S has a total of 8 graded AU58 and 35 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $12,750.00
1909-O has a total of 6 graded AU58 and 58 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is a paltry $5,000.00
1913-S has a total of 6 graded AU58 and 73 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is a whopping $15,000.00
I think even though my price is well over price guide it's a bargain compared to the others!
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Seller fails to mention:
1901-O has a total of 8 graded AU58 and 42 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $2,200.00
1899-S has a total of 24 graded AU58 and 44 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,350.00
1898-S has a total of 20 graded AU58 and 46 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,150.00
1896-O has a total of 25 graded AU58 and 47 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,350.00
1898-O has a total of 36 graded AU58 and 58 Graded in MS grades. The price guide is $1,100.00
The seller asked me to post this response to you.
The only coin on your list that should/could be on your list is the 1901-O. The others aren't even in the ballpark! I will make a standing offer of at least double price guide for an AU58 1901-O if you find one before I do. There are 2 I won't consider: The one Gerry Fortin had only had 1/2 a mintmark and Feldman's isn't as nice as the 55 I have.
Oh, and that 1909-O has the Green Bean which you covet so!
"1/2 a mintmark?" "Feldman's?" DLRC does have an AU55 @ $2,225.
I think I have seen that coin. If memory serves correctly, the upper-half of the mintmark got a ding or a hit looking like half the mintmark is missing.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here is the current one at Gerry's
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/GFRC_Images/16200676.jpg
One of my 1901-O's (25c)... the other XF45 has a CAC sticker. This one does not (older PCGS holder and ex-Srotag):
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.