@air4mdc said:
I wonder how his beer tasted. The Brand brothers brought the family recipe to Chicago from the Motherland. One of my favorite provenances, besides Col. Green. I like his story as well, the wild and crazy life he led.
Good question and great avenue for discussion!
Here's some information on Brand Brewing for further research and discussion.
@Zoins said:
An interesting thing is that it's relatively easy to associate exonumia with Virgil Brand because there are a lot of NGC slabs with his name on it.
Anyone know the background of how his name got on all those NGC slabs?
Submitter bought them in an auction and requested it?
@Zoins said:
An interesting thing is that it's relatively easy to associate exonumia with Virgil Brand because there are a lot of NGC slabs with his name on it.
Anyone know the background of how his name got on all those NGC slabs?
Submitter bought them in an auction and requested it?
Yes, @Veep answered my question above indicating that Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co. purchased much of the remainder of the collection, with a follow up by @tokenpro confirming that Bill and @tokenpro both had some pieces slabbed by NGC with Brand's provenance.
@Veepsaid:
PNG member, Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co. purchased remnants of Brand’s exonumia collection around five years ago. I think Coin World ran the story. Much of it was water damaged but there were still many nice pieces. I’m not sure if they’ve all been sold now, but it could be that he slabbed a number of them at NGC.
@tokenprosaid:
You are correct -- Bill purchased two good sized wood boxes full of miscellaneous exonumia & world coins that were the property of one of Brand's heirs. These boxes were part of the inheritance when Brand's collection was split up and had sat unopened in a cabin in Wisconsin for many years. One of the boxes contained all the remainders of the Chicago Coin Club plaquette issued for the visit of the USS Nashville in 1909(?) still in their original presentation boxes. There were many scarce pieces (especially world coins) but there was a bunch of pedestrian material as well.
Many of the other pieces were holdered by NGC with the ex-Virgil Brand notation; the raw pieces (many with minor to major storage related problems) all carried a printed card explaining where they came from and the significance of the hoard. I purchased some of the slabs from Bill at CSNS right after they came out and also purchased a 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 box full of the raw pieces (some of which I later had slabbed with the ex-Brand notation courtesy of the CCC printed card). I also have slabbed about 20 +/- pieces that came from the original Bowers auction including a handful of better Thomas Elder pieces. I would think that most of the ex-Brand holders with exonumia seen currently came from the Burd/CCC discovery.
Thank you @Zoins for passing along this information on Brand, and I like the envelopes very much. I'm over by that area of Chicago often so I'll have to take a look for the building or where it used to be if so.
@air4mdc said:
Thank you @Zoins for passing along this information on Brand, and I like the envelopes very much. I'm over by that area of Chicago often so I'll have to take a look for the building or where it used to be if so.
Thanks @air4mdc! There are many interesting collectors from yesteryear! I have a number threads on others as well, but one reason I keeping coming back go Brand is the breadth of his collection! It has everything from rare coins, including the very first US silver dollar (previously owned by @tradedollarnut and @cardinal here) to errors (owned by @FredWeinberg here), to exonumia (some owned by @THOMAS655 here) . And we wouldn't have the provenance for the exonumia if it were not for @tokenpro and Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co.! Of course, many other great forum members are now owners/caretakers of his other pieces so it's great to not only be able to dive into his collection but link them to today's collectors as well.
Here are some photos of Brand Brewing. It seems like it's easy to visit!
Although heavily altered, the Brand Brewing Company is one of Chicago’s most visible brewing remnants. Located at 2530 Elston, it is shown here in an image dating to the mid 1970s. Unfortunately, the large arch uniting the two buildings has since been removed.
Brewing at Brand began in 1899. The history of this brewery is very complex and often confused with another former brewery located across Elston which was also owned by members of the Brand family. The Brand brewery depicted here did not survive for long after Prohibition was repealed in 1933, operating only until 1935.3
This building was used for hop storage and settling tanks. It originally stood a couple stories taller (as did the building to its left), but was shortened to its current height at some point between 1935 and 1950, according to Sanborn fire insurance maps.
Aside from being an important physical remnant of Chicago’s brewing history, the Brand Brewing complex provides an excellent example of the reuse and evolution of an industrial site. In 1950, the brewery buildings were in use by a multitude of firms, including a cold storage company, hardware warehouse, and rubber works. The front office addition was added in 1949, likely for the cold storage operation. Surprisingly, this addition was cut off at some point! When this occurred, a former doorway between it and the older building was bricked up.
Left: This image depicts the administrative building as well as part of the incongruous 1949 office addition.
Right: The neighboring Home Depot parking lot provides a good view of the back of the former brewery, which once consisted of several more buildings located on the site of this parking lot.
Below is another piece that is linked back to Brand - a J-1746 50C Pattern. While not related to beer or as a dramatic design as some of other pieces noted earlier, I find this of interest as it was an aluminum 50C pattern from the Thomas Elder's 1908 sale of the Peter Gschwend Collection, as Lot Z. The piece was plated so one can easily see below that it is one in the same specimen. Virgil Brand picked up many pieces from this sale including this piece. It was logged into his ledger along with the other pieces from that 1908 auction. Refer to the Secondary Ledger 7, 1908-1909 [ANS Virgil Brand papers] item 44170 for this listing. https://archive.org/details/secondaryledger700unse/page/n40/mode/1up?ui=embed&view=theater&wrapper=false
PS: the hand entry for lot Z in that Auction Addendum had an error - noting 1825 vs. the 1885 date. Also, I like to make note that this piece is the plate piece for the J-1746 in the 10th edition for Judd reference book and is just one of 2 known. The other is impounded in the Smithsonian Institution per USPattern.com.
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@retirednow said:
Below is another piece that is linked back to Brand - a J-1746 50C Pattern. While not related to beer or as a dramatic design as some of other pieces noted earlier, I find this of interest as it was an aluminum 50C pattern from the Thomas Elder's 1908 sale of the Peter Gschwend Collection, as Lot Z. The piece was plated so one can easily see below that it is one in the same specimen. Virgil Brand picked up many pieces from this sale including this piece. It was logged into his ledger along with the other pieces from that 1908 auction. Refer to the Secondary Ledger 7, 1908-1909 [ANS Virgil Brand papers] item 44170 for this listing. https://archive.org/details/secondaryledger700unse/page/n40/mode/1up?ui=embed&view=theater&wrapper=false
PS: the hand entry for lot Z in that Auction Addendum had an error - noting 1825 vs. the 1885 date. Also, I like to make note that this piece is the plate piece for the J-1746 in the 10th edition for Judd reference book and is just one of 2 known. The other is impounded in the Smithsonian Institution per USPattern.com.
Wow! Amazing coin @retirednow ! For Virgil to have this, just one of two pieces, is amazing. Much thanks to Laura for working with Bob Simpson to get his collection TrueViewed.
1885 Seated Libert Half Dollar in Aluminum - Judd-1746 - Brand-Specimen PCGS PR64+CAM
Ex: Peter Gschwend (Thomas Elder, 6/1908), lot Z in the second addendum; Virgil Brand (Journal #44170); Armin Brand; unknown intermediaries, Harry X Boosel Collection (RARCOA, 4/1972), lot 1190; FUN Sale (RARCOA, 1/1973), lot 688; Public Auction Sale (Stack's, 1/1987) lot 535; October 7-9, 1990 Sale (Superior Galleries, 10/1990), lot 1887; Robert W. Miller, Sr. Collection (Bowers and Merena, 11/1992), lot 1085; Rarities Sale (Bowers and Merena, 1/1997), lot 466; William H. LaBelle, Sr. Collection (American Numismatic Rarities, 7/2005), lot 68; Important Selections from The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part III / FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2021), lot 3273; Dallas Signature (Heritage, 6/2021), lot 3256.
@Zoins said:
An interesting thing is that it's relatively easy to associate exonumia with Virgil Brand because there are a lot of NGC slabs with his name on it.
Anyone know the background of how his name got on all those NGC slabs?
Submitter bought them in an auction and requested it?
Yes, @Veep answered my question above indicating that Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co. purchased much of the remainder of the collection, with a follow up by @tokenpro confirming that Bill and @tokenpro both had some pieces slabbed by NGC with Brand's provenance.
@Veepsaid:
PNG member, Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co. purchased remnants of Brand’s exonumia collection around five years ago. I think Coin World ran the story. Much of it was water damaged but there were still many nice pieces. I’m not sure if they’ve all been sold now, but it could be that he slabbed a number of them at NGC.
@tokenprosaid:
You are correct -- Bill purchased two good sized wood boxes full of miscellaneous exonumia & world coins that were the property of one of Brand's heirs. These boxes were part of the inheritance when Brand's collection was split up and had sat unopened in a cabin in Wisconsin for many years. One of the boxes contained all the remainders of the Chicago Coin Club plaquette issued for the visit of the USS Nashville in 1909(?) still in their original presentation boxes. There were many scarce pieces (especially world coins) but there was a bunch of pedestrian material as well.
Many of the other pieces were holdered by NGC with the ex-Virgil Brand notation; the raw pieces (many with minor to major storage related problems) all carried a printed card explaining where they came from and the significance of the hoard. I purchased some of the slabs from Bill at CSNS right after they came out and also purchased a 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 box full of the raw pieces (some of which I later had slabbed with the ex-Brand notation courtesy of the CCC printed card). I also have slabbed about 20 +/- pieces that came from the original Bowers auction including a handful of better Thomas Elder pieces. I would think that most of the ex-Brand holders with exonumia seen currently came from the Burd/CCC discovery.
Of note, there are a number of Virgil's Masonic Pennies on eBay now. They come with typed envelopes but are not slabbed. If they get slabbed one day, hopefully the envelope travels with them!
@Mark said: @Zoins I am relatively sure you know, but QDB wrote a book about Virgil Brand. I read it ( a LONG time ago) and recall that I enjoyed it. In case you do not have a copy, I see where one is available on Amazon. Search for "Virgil Brand: The Man and His Era" and it will pop up. Of course, the book may be available somewhere less for less. I did not spend much (actually, any ) time searching once I found a copy.
@Mark said: @Zoins I am relatively sure you know, but QDB wrote a book about Virgil Brand. I read it ( a LONG time ago) and recall that I enjoyed it. In case you do not have a copy, I see where one is available on Amazon. Search for "Virgil Brand: The Man and His Era" and it will pop up. Of course, the book may be available somewhere less for less. I did not spend much (actually, any ) time searching once I found a copy.
@Zoins said:
Virgil had 6 of the 10 specimens for the 1884 Trade Dollar.
So far, I've only been able get a photo of this one. Can anyone post photos of his other 5?
1884 Trade Dollar PCGS PR64CAM - Idler-Haseltine-Brand
Wow! Below is the Brand-Eliasberg coin, previously owned by @tradedollarnut! So we're now at 2 of 6 in this thread.
1884 Trade Dollar PCGS PR66CAM CAC - Brand-Eliasberg
The pedigree is listed as the following by Heritage. Of note, PCGS lists this as "Brand-Eliasberg"
Heritage said:
PR66 NGC. H.O. Granberg, exhibited at the 1914 ANS Exhibition as part of a full set of Trade dollars; H.O. Granberg Sale (B. Max Mehl, 7/1919), lot 128, realized $260; Virgil Brand (Brand Journal number 92357); Armin Brand (sold 9/1/1942); unknown intermediaries, possibly Stack's in 1942; Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr.; Eliasberg Estate (Bowers and Merena, 4/1997), lot 2353; Spectrum Numismatics; Legend Collection (Bruce Morelan); John Albanese; Heritage Auctions sold privately into the Greensboro Collection in January 2006 for $925,000. The present coin.
This coin is also still certified at NGC, but no longer in the CAC DB:
@air4mdc said:
Thank you @Zoins for passing along this information on Brand, and I like the envelopes very much. I'm over by that area of Chicago often so I'll have to take a look for the building or where it used to be if so.
Thanks @air4mdc! There are many interesting collectors from yesteryear! I have a number threads on others as well, but one reason I keeping coming back go Brand is the breadth of his collection! It has everything from rare coins, including the very first US silver dollar (previously owned by @tradedollarnut and @cardinal here) to errors (owned by @FredWeinberg here), to exonumia (some owned by @THOMAS655 here) . And we wouldn't have the provenance for the exonumia if it were not for @tokenpro and Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co.! Of course, many other great forum members are now owners/caretakers of his other pieces so it's great to not only be able to dive into his collection but link them to today's collectors as well.
Here are some photos of Brand Brewing. It seems like it's easy to visit!
Although heavily altered, the Brand Brewing Company is one of Chicago’s most visible brewing remnants. Located at 2530 Elston, it is shown here in an image dating to the mid 1970s. Unfortunately, the large arch uniting the two buildings has since been removed.
Brewing at Brand began in 1899. The history of this brewery is very complex and often confused with another former brewery located across Elston which was also owned by members of the Brand family. The Brand brewery depicted here did not survive for long after Prohibition was repealed in 1933, operating only until 1935.3
This building was used for hop storage and settling tanks. It originally stood a couple stories taller (as did the building to its left), but was shortened to its current height at some point between 1935 and 1950, according to Sanborn fire insurance maps.
Aside from being an important physical remnant of Chicago’s brewing history, the Brand Brewing complex provides an excellent example of the reuse and evolution of an industrial site. In 1950, the brewery buildings were in use by a multitude of firms, including a cold storage company, hardware warehouse, and rubber works. The front office addition was added in 1949, likely for the cold storage operation. Surprisingly, this addition was cut off at some point! When this occurred, a former doorway between it and the older building was bricked up.
Left: This image depicts the administrative building as well as part of the incongruous 1949 office addition.
Right: The neighboring Home Depot parking lot provides a good view of the back of the former brewery, which once consisted of several more buildings located on the site of this parking lot.
Thanks again @Zoins, what a great read you passed along. It appears that the old Brand Brewery is only a couple of blocks from the MicroCenter and Costco I frequent when visiting family. Most definitely, I’ll be looking for that building, it’s a shame the arch is no longer present.
There is no way I can begin to comprehend the vast amount of coins that were in Brand’s collection. I sure would like one in my collection.🙂
@air4mdc said:
Thank you @Zoins for passing along this information on Brand, and I like the envelopes very much. I'm over by that area of Chicago often so I'll have to take a look for the building or where it used to be if so.
Thanks @air4mdc! There are many interesting collectors from yesteryear! I have a number threads on others as well, but one reason I keeping coming back go Brand is the breadth of his collection! It has everything from rare coins, including the very first US silver dollar (previously owned by @tradedollarnut and @cardinal here) to errors (owned by @FredWeinberg here), to exonumia (some owned by @THOMAS655 here) . And we wouldn't have the provenance for the exonumia if it were not for @tokenpro and Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co.! Of course, many other great forum members are now owners/caretakers of his other pieces so it's great to not only be able to dive into his collection but link them to today's collectors as well.
Here are some photos of Brand Brewing. It seems like it's easy to visit!
Although heavily altered, the Brand Brewing Company is one of Chicago’s most visible brewing remnants. Located at 2530 Elston, it is shown here in an image dating to the mid 1970s. Unfortunately, the large arch uniting the two buildings has since been removed.
Brewing at Brand began in 1899. The history of this brewery is very complex and often confused with another former brewery located across Elston which was also owned by members of the Brand family. The Brand brewery depicted here did not survive for long after Prohibition was repealed in 1933, operating only until 1935.3
This building was used for hop storage and settling tanks. It originally stood a couple stories taller (as did the building to its left), but was shortened to its current height at some point between 1935 and 1950, according to Sanborn fire insurance maps.
Aside from being an important physical remnant of Chicago’s brewing history, the Brand Brewing complex provides an excellent example of the reuse and evolution of an industrial site. In 1950, the brewery buildings were in use by a multitude of firms, including a cold storage company, hardware warehouse, and rubber works. The front office addition was added in 1949, likely for the cold storage operation. Surprisingly, this addition was cut off at some point! When this occurred, a former doorway between it and the older building was bricked up.
Left: This image depicts the administrative building as well as part of the incongruous 1949 office addition.
Right: The neighboring Home Depot parking lot provides a good view of the back of the former brewery, which once consisted of several more buildings located on the site of this parking lot.
Thanks again @Zoins, what a great read you passed along. It appears that the old Brand Brewery is only a couple of blocks from the MicroCenter and Costco I frequent when visiting family. Most definitely, I’ll be looking for that building, it’s a shame the arch is no longer present.
There is no way I can begin to comprehend the vast amount of coins that were in Brand’s collection. I sure would like one in my collection.🙂
Wow! That's awesome that it's so close! I'm glad this thread is interesting and love your posts as well. It's really all of us together that make these forums so worthwhile. If you do happen to visit, please take and post some photos, ideally with some modern cars in it
@air4mdc said:
Thank you @Zoins for passing along this information on Brand, and I like the envelopes very much. I'm over by that area of Chicago often so I'll have to take a look for the building or where it used to be if so.
Thanks @air4mdc! There are many interesting collectors from yesteryear! I have a number threads on others as well, but one reason I keeping coming back go Brand is the breadth of his collection! It has everything from rare coins, including the very first US silver dollar (previously owned by @tradedollarnut and @cardinal here) to errors (owned by @FredWeinberg here), to exonumia (some owned by @THOMAS655 here) . And we wouldn't have the provenance for the exonumia if it were not for @tokenpro and Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co.! Of course, many other great forum members are now owners/caretakers of his other pieces so it's great to not only be able to dive into his collection but link them to today's collectors as well.
Here are some photos of Brand Brewing. It seems like it's easy to visit!
Although heavily altered, the Brand Brewing Company is one of Chicago’s most visible brewing remnants. Located at 2530 Elston, it is shown here in an image dating to the mid 1970s. Unfortunately, the large arch uniting the two buildings has since been removed.
Brewing at Brand began in 1899. The history of this brewery is very complex and often confused with another former brewery located across Elston which was also owned by members of the Brand family. The Brand brewery depicted here did not survive for long after Prohibition was repealed in 1933, operating only until 1935.3
This building was used for hop storage and settling tanks. It originally stood a couple stories taller (as did the building to its left), but was shortened to its current height at some point between 1935 and 1950, according to Sanborn fire insurance maps.
Aside from being an important physical remnant of Chicago’s brewing history, the Brand Brewing complex provides an excellent example of the reuse and evolution of an industrial site. In 1950, the brewery buildings were in use by a multitude of firms, including a cold storage company, hardware warehouse, and rubber works. The front office addition was added in 1949, likely for the cold storage operation. Surprisingly, this addition was cut off at some point! When this occurred, a former doorway between it and the older building was bricked up.
Left: This image depicts the administrative building as well as part of the incongruous 1949 office addition.
Right: The neighboring Home Depot parking lot provides a good view of the back of the former brewery, which once consisted of several more buildings located on the site of this parking lot.
Thanks again @Zoins, what a great read you passed along. It appears that the old Brand Brewery is only a couple of blocks from the MicroCenter and Costco I frequent when visiting family. Most definitely, I’ll be looking for that building, it’s a shame the arch is no longer present.
There is no way I can begin to comprehend the vast amount of coins that were in Brand’s collection. I sure would like one in my collection.🙂
Wow! That's awesome that it's so close! I'm glad this thread is interesting and love your posts as well. It's really all of us together that make these forums so worthwhile. If you do happen to visit, please take and post some photos, ideally with some modern cars in it
Thanks for the kind words @Zoins and I sure will take some pictures and get them up for viewing. With this time of year being very busy, it most likely won’t be until after the holidays. I will make sure to incudes some modern cars as well. Hopefully they won’t covered snow covered.
Finally got to looking up the TrueView for your Brand-Pogue coin! Amazing to think about how much history this coin has both before and after Virgil! Thanks for sharing it!
Comments
Good question and great avenue for discussion!
Here's some information on Brand Brewing for further research and discussion.
http://www.oldbreweries.com/breweries-by-state/illinois/chicago-il-166-breweries/brand-brewing-co-il-50a/
The envelope photo is courtesy of Stamp-O-Saurus.
Submitter bought them in an auction and requested it?
Yes, @Veep answered my question above indicating that Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co. purchased much of the remainder of the collection, with a follow up by @tokenpro confirming that Bill and @tokenpro both had some pieces slabbed by NGC with Brand's provenance.
Here's another envelope from uuubuy's breweriana shop!
The cancellation mark is in an interesting place on this one.
Thank you @Zoins for passing along this information on Brand, and I like the envelopes very much. I'm over by that area of Chicago often so I'll have to take a look for the building or where it used to be if so.
Thanks @air4mdc! There are many interesting collectors from yesteryear! I have a number threads on others as well, but one reason I keeping coming back go Brand is the breadth of his collection! It has everything from rare coins, including the very first US silver dollar (previously owned by @tradedollarnut and @cardinal here) to errors (owned by @FredWeinberg here), to exonumia (some owned by @THOMAS655 here) . And we wouldn't have the provenance for the exonumia if it were not for @tokenpro and Bill Burd of Chicago Coin Co.! Of course, many other great forum members are now owners/caretakers of his other pieces so it's great to not only be able to dive into his collection but link them to today's collectors as well.
Here are some photos of Brand Brewing. It seems like it's easy to visit!
http://forgottenchicago.com/articles/bygone-breweries/
Below is another piece that is linked back to Brand - a J-1746 50C Pattern. While not related to beer or as a dramatic design as some of other pieces noted earlier, I find this of interest as it was an aluminum 50C pattern from the Thomas Elder's 1908 sale of the Peter Gschwend Collection, as Lot Z. The piece was plated so one can easily see below that it is one in the same specimen. Virgil Brand picked up many pieces from this sale including this piece. It was logged into his ledger along with the other pieces from that 1908 auction. Refer to the Secondary Ledger 7, 1908-1909 [ANS Virgil Brand papers] item 44170 for this listing.
https://archive.org/details/secondaryledger700unse/page/n40/mode/1up?ui=embed&view=theater&wrapper=false
PS: the hand entry for lot Z in that Auction Addendum had an error - noting 1825 vs. the 1885 date. Also, I like to make note that this piece is the plate piece for the J-1746 in the 10th edition for Judd reference book and is just one of 2 known. The other is impounded in the Smithsonian Institution per USPattern.com.
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
Wow! Amazing coin @retirednow ! For Virgil to have this, just one of two pieces, is amazing. Much thanks to Laura for working with Bob Simpson to get his collection TrueViewed.
1885 Seated Libert Half Dollar in Aluminum - Judd-1746 - Brand-Specimen
PCGS PR64+CAM
Ex: Peter Gschwend (Thomas Elder, 6/1908), lot Z in the second addendum; Virgil Brand (Journal #44170); Armin Brand; unknown intermediaries, Harry X Boosel Collection (RARCOA, 4/1972), lot 1190; FUN Sale (RARCOA, 1/1973), lot 688; Public Auction Sale (Stack's, 1/1987) lot 535; October 7-9, 1990 Sale (Superior Galleries, 10/1990), lot 1887; Robert W. Miller, Sr. Collection (Bowers and Merena, 11/1992), lot 1085; Rarities Sale (Bowers and Merena, 1/1997), lot 466; William H. LaBelle, Sr. Collection (American Numismatic Rarities, 7/2005), lot 68; Important Selections from The Bob R. Simpson Collection, Part III / FUN Signature (Heritage, 1/2021), lot 3273; Dallas Signature (Heritage, 6/2021), lot 3256.
From this provenance, what other collectors are worthy of note?
Of note, there are a number of Virgil's Masonic Pennies on eBay now. They come with typed envelopes but are not slabbed. If they get slabbed one day, hopefully the envelope travels with them!
Can be found on the Newman portal
https://ia801005.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?zip=/31/items/virgilbrand1983bowe/virgilbrand1983bowe_jp2.zip&file=virgilbrand1983bowe_jp2/virgilbrand1983bowe_0000.jp2&id=virgilbrand1983bowe&scale=4&rotate=0
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
This the link to book https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/570384
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!
Wow! Below is the Brand-Eliasberg coin, previously owned by @tradedollarnut! So we're now at 2 of 6 in this thread.
1884 Trade Dollar PCGS PR66CAM CAC - Brand-Eliasberg
The pedigree is listed as the following by Heritage. Of note, PCGS lists this as "Brand-Eliasberg"
This coin is also still certified at NGC, but no longer in the CAC DB:
Thanks again @Zoins, what a great read you passed along. It appears that the old Brand Brewery is only a couple of blocks from the MicroCenter and Costco I frequent when visiting family. Most definitely, I’ll be looking for that building, it’s a shame the arch is no longer present.
There is no way I can begin to comprehend the vast amount of coins that were in Brand’s collection. I sure would like one in my collection.🙂
Wow! That's awesome that it's so close! I'm glad this thread is interesting and love your posts as well. It's really all of us together that make these forums so worthwhile. If you do happen to visit, please take and post some photos, ideally with some modern cars in it
Thanks for the kind words @Zoins and I sure will take some pictures and get them up for viewing. With this time of year being very busy, it most likely won’t be until after the holidays. I will make sure to incudes some modern cars as well. Hopefully they won’t covered snow covered.
Great piece @boiler78!
Finally got to looking up the TrueView for your Brand-Pogue coin! Amazing to think about how much history this coin has both before and after Virgil! Thanks for sharing it!
Glad to see Virgil recognized now!
This is now the Brand-Carter-Knoxville Dollar
Cert: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36065467