27.12% MS69 non-privy FH seems a bit high for the dealer class.
Are the TPG's going to be tough on these medals?
Is the quality not quite there on this issue?
I wonder how many 69's or less will be out there for the retail crowd.
34 graded privy/ 752 graded is 4.5% vs the 2.4% population.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics. You cannot draw any conclusions from 1% of the sample size (752/75,000).
What are you talking about and how did you assume that from my percentage posted? Only an observation.
People can request minimum grades. Can the privy mark be a requirement for grading? If so perhaps more than 752 have passed through the hands at PCGS. I am not suggesting that is the case. I am asking if a privy can be a minimum requirement.
@MsMorrisine said:
if 75,000 don't sell out in minutes and the waiting room is open with a 1 min wait, how valuable will the 1794 be?
What does 75K have to do with 1794?
75K will absolutely sell out, because people will take their shot. Especially if they can buy in quantity at 12:01 tomorrow.
After that, retail buyers will bury the Mint in returns, while dealers will dump their unwanted inventory on the market. That takes care of the 73,206 rounds that are overpriced at $104 each, but says nothing about the 1794 special ones. That will be a separate market, as it always is with things like this.
there's nothing more special about the medal than a privy mark. the design is the same. if the design plus medal combo was so hot the 75000 would be gone now and the masses would be fingernailless hoping for a privy mark and paying multiple over non-privy
if the plan was to buy and return hoping to score a 1794, why aren't they sold out?
@coiner said:
From the first reported order number 14839** to the last thus far 14859**
Only 20,000 orders—if they were all for this coin—that’s 20,000 coins sold.
Based on mintage of 75,000 less 10% for ABPP dealers 7500 = 67500 available.
Less orders posted on this blog -20,000
= 47,500 remain.
Available stock showing a smaller 37,061? Available for sale.
Anyway—none of this is science, just estimates. But it appears that at least 1/2 the mintage remains.
This will drag on.
Nope. 10% is just ABPP. After that there is still bulk purchase. That counter seems to be stuck at 37K for a while now. I'm not sure I would rely on it.
That said, I am surprised things have gone as smoothly as they have. And that anything is available 3+ hours after release. Maybe there is something to people shunning medals after all.
Never thought they would sell out 75k in one afternoon.
If you did you must be dreaming again.
Now tomorrow when the HHL is released, thats a different story. If they dont sellout then, its DOA.
27.12% MS69 non-privy FH seems a bit high for the dealer class.
Are the TPG's going to be tough on these medals?
Is the quality not quite there on this issue?
I wonder how many 69's or less will be out there for the retail crowd.
34 graded privy/ 752 graded is 4.5% vs the 2.4% population.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics. You cannot draw any conclusions from 1% of the sample size (752/75,000).
What are you talking about and how did you assume that from my percentage posted? Only an observation.
People can request minimum grades. Can the privy mark be a requirement for grading? If so perhaps more than 752 have passed through the hands at PCGS. I am not suggesting that is the case. I am asking if a privy can be a minimum requirement.
I'm commenting on your observation being statistically invalid, since it was based on looking at 752 data points out of 75,000. "Privy" is not a requirement, like 69 or 70. It is literally a different coin, with its own PCGS #.
You noted that privys comprise 4.5% of the early PCGS population, when it would only be expected to comprise 2.4%. And I shot back that that means nothing when you are looking at 752 items out of a total population of 75,000.
@MsMorrisine said:
if 75,000 don't sell out in minutes and the waiting room is open with a 1 min wait, how valuable will the 1794 be?
What does 75K have to do with 1794?
75K will absolutely sell out, because people will take their shot. Especially if they can buy in quantity at 12:01 tomorrow.
After that, retail buyers will bury the Mint in returns, while dealers will dump their unwanted inventory on the market. That takes care of the 73,206 rounds that are overpriced at $104 each, but says nothing about the 1794 special ones. That will be a separate market, as it always is with things like this.
there's nothing more special about the medal than a privy mark. the design is the same. if the design plus medal combo was so hot the 75000 would be gone now and the masses would be fingernailless hoping for a privy mark and paying multiple over non-privy
if the plan was to buy and return hoping to score a 1794, why aren't they sold out?
Yup. And there is nothing special about the 1995-W ASE, other than the mint mark. Or the 2020 WWII 75th Anniversary ASEs and AGEs, other than the privys. What's your point? Mine is that the privy, or mint mark, are everything, even though the rest of the coin or medal is exactly the same.
I honestly don't know why they are not yet sold out. But please, get back to me this time tomorrow, and let's see where we are then.
The dealers would have bought up 100% of the medals if they were allowed to because the privy medals guaranteed a profit of over 100% on every dollar spent.
That would translate into a profit of almost $8 million.
@coiner said:
From the first reported order number 14839** to the last thus far 14859**
Only 20,000 orders—if they were all for this coin—that’s 20,000 coins sold.
Based on mintage of 75,000 less 10% for ABPP dealers 7500 = 67500 available.
Less orders posted on this blog -20,000
= 47,500 remain.
Available stock showing a smaller 37,061? Available for sale.
Anyway—none of this is science, just estimates. But it appears that at least 1/2 the mintage remains.
This will drag on.
Nope. 10% is just ABPP. After that there is still bulk purchase. That counter seems to be stuck at 37K for a while now. I'm not sure I would rely on it.
That said, I am surprised things have gone as smoothly as they have. And that anything is available 3+ hours after release. Maybe there is something to people shunning medals after all.
Never thought they would sell out 75k in one afternoon.
If you did you must be dreaming again.
Now tomorrow when the HHL is released, thats a different story. If they dont sellout then, its DOA.
Yeah, I guess I was dreaming. I have no way to know how many they sold to dealers ahead of time (clearly more than the 7500 going to ABPP, but unclear how much more). Even so, and even with a HHL of 1, I expected them to go as quickly as the website could handle the volume.
Apparently, the Mint is on to something with taking care of dealers separately, thereby preventing them from lining up people to slam the website to obtain inventory. Still, it's a valuable lottery ticket, so it's inconceivable that they won't sell out fast once the HHL is lifted.
Unless people know something I don't know (yes, I don't know everything! 😂), and the distribution of privys is disproportionately in favor of dealers, leaving little for the retail buyers on the web. But, since there is no way to know that, even if true, I doubt that is suppressing demand.
If they are still in stock at noon tomorrow, I'm quite sure a few lottery players will clean them out in an hour or so.
Nobody even getting excited for the 230 special signed COA's?
230 of the privy marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director, Ventris C. Gibson
@Onastone said:
Nobody even getting excited for the 230 special signed COA's?
230 of the privy marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director, Ventris C. Gibson
That should push the value really high!!!!
I’m some previous coins, pcgs wouldn’t certify and holder the certificate with the coin unless they were shipped together in a sealed box. Wonder if it’s the same way this time
@MsMorrisine said:
if 75,000 don't sell out in minutes and the waiting room is open with a 1 min wait, how valuable will the 1794 be?
What does 75K have to do with 1794?
75K will absolutely sell out, because people will take their shot. Especially if they can buy in quantity at 12:01 tomorrow.
After that, retail buyers will bury the Mint in returns, while dealers will dump their unwanted inventory on the market. That takes care of the 73,206 rounds that are overpriced at $104 each, but says nothing about the 1794 special ones. That will be a separate market, as it always is with things like this.
there's nothing more special about the medal than a privy mark. the design is the same. if the design plus medal combo was so hot the 75000 would be gone now and the masses would be fingernailless hoping for a privy mark and paying multiple over non-privy
if the plan was to buy and return hoping to score a 1794, why aren't they sold out?
Yup. And there is nothing special about the 1995-W ASE, other than the mint mark. Or the 2020 WWII 75th Anniversary ASEs and AGEs, other than the privys. What's your point? Mine is that the privy, or mint mark, are everything, even though the rest of the coin or medal is exactly the same.
I honestly don't know why they are not yet sold out. But please, get back to me this time tomorrow, and let's see where we are then.
ok i see your point
i still see something that is a medal in what might be a series of design remakes done as medals. they won't be as widely collected as the ase or age
@Onastone said:
Nobody even getting excited for the 230 special signed COA's?
230 of the privy marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director, Ventris C. Gibson
That should push the value really high!!!!
I’m some previous coins, pcgs wouldn’t certify and holder the certificate with the coin unless they were shipped together in a sealed box. Wonder if it’s the same way this time
I can't be 100% sure without checking with PCGS, but this is what their website currently says:
Source: https://www.pcgs.com/coa
IIRC from 21XK, they allowed you to submit a sealed box with a note asking them to only encapsulate the COA if it was signed.
@Onastone said:
Nobody even getting excited for the 230 special signed COA's?
230 of the privy marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director, Ventris C. Gibson
That should push the value really high!!!!
I’m some previous coins, pcgs wouldn’t certify and holder the certificate with the coin unless they were shipped together in a sealed box. Wonder if it’s the same way this time
I can't be 100% sure without checking with PCGS, but this is what their website currently says:
Source: https://www.pcgs.com/coa
IIRC from 21XK, they allowed you to submit a sealed box with a note asking them to only encapsulate the COA if it was signed.
Glad you brought this topic to the forefront. I was thinking this is one Mint issue I can open, because the HHL is only one. I remember buying the 2023 Unc. Peace $1, the Mint Director signed COA was in the box. I bought ten of them and when the box came it was too late for me. I broke the sacred rule, I opened the box. Now I have a worthless COA even though it is is very rare. We need to check with PCGS on this medal.
Yeah, I guess I was dreaming. I have no way to know how many they sold to dealers ahead of time (clearly more than the 7500 going to ABPP, but unclear how much more). Even so, and even with a HHL of 1, I expected them to go as quickly as the website could handle the volume.
Apparently, the Mint is on to something with taking care of dealers separately, thereby preventing them from lining up people to slam the website to obtain inventory. Still, it's a valuable lottery ticket, so it's inconceivable that they won't sell out fast once the HHL is lifted.
Unless people know something I don't know (yes, I don't know everything! 😂), and the distribution of privys is disproportionately in favor of dealers, leaving little for the retail buyers on the web. But, since there is no way to know that, even if true, I doubt that is suppressing demand.
If they are still in stock at noon tomorrow, I'm quite sure a few lottery players will clean them out in an hour or so.
Let's just hope the USM distributed a proportionate # of privy's to the dealers in the 2-2.5% range. In that case if "no more than 10%" (USM guidlines) of a limited product is distributed to ABPP or Bulk Buyers, then they shouldnt have more than 180 or so privys.
The key is now how they packaged the privys in general. The packaging of medals comes in boxes of 100 from the minting facility - I know because I personally know one person who has purchased several 100 of other medals in the last 2 years in 99 count increments. The box received was a box of 100 stamped at the minting facility, ripped open - one taken out and resealed and shipped.
If the privys were packed 2-2.5 to every box of 100; this would be the best scenario. If someone were to buy in qty of 100, they should receive 2 or 3 privy's.
I've only seen a few here who like myself purchased the coin/medal because I love the 1794 Flowing Hair design! I don't really care if they sell out today, tomorrow or next week though I sure won't cry if I hit the lottery. As for the DEI COA, I couldn't care less! $100 sure doesn't buy much these days!
@MsMorrisine said:
the number in a carton depends upon the product's size
These seem to be the same size packaging as previous years medals that were purchased..I suspect boxes of 100.
The issue is you can buy up to 99 online.
I suppose you can call in an order of 100
@MsMorrisine said:
if 75,000 don't sell out in minutes and the waiting room is open with a 1 min wait, how valuable will the 1794 be?
What does 75K have to do with 1794?
75K will absolutely sell out, because people will take their shot. Especially if they can buy in quantity at 12:01 tomorrow.
After that, retail buyers will bury the Mint in returns, while dealers will dump their unwanted inventory on the market. That takes care of the 73,206 rounds that are overpriced at $104 each, but says nothing about the 1794 special ones. That will be a separate market, as it always is with things like this.
there's nothing more special about the medal than a privy mark. the design is the same. if the design plus medal combo was so hot the 75000 would be gone now and the masses would be fingernailless hoping for a privy mark and paying multiple over non-privy
if the plan was to buy and return hoping to score a 1794, why aren't they sold out?
Yup. And there is nothing special about the 1995-W ASE, other than the mint mark. Or the 2020 WWII 75th Anniversary ASEs and AGEs, other than the privys. What's your point? Mine is that the privy, or mint mark, are everything, even though the rest of the coin or medal is exactly the same.
I honestly don't know why they are not yet sold out. But please, get back to me this time tomorrow, and let's see where we are then.
ok i see your point
i still see something that is a medal in what might be a series of design remakes done as medals. they won't be as widely collected as the ase or age
i'm thinking this is why they haven't sold out
You might very well be right. I always thought medals didn't sell well because their subjects were more obscure or less popular. Not because people were hung up on whether or not the silver round, produced by the US Mint, on the same planchets as ASEs, were monetized.
The fact that these have not yet sold out might indicate that I am wrong about this.
Yeah, I guess I was dreaming. I have no way to know how many they sold to dealers ahead of time (clearly more than the 7500 going to ABPP, but unclear how much more). Even so, and even with a HHL of 1, I expected them to go as quickly as the website could handle the volume.
Apparently, the Mint is on to something with taking care of dealers separately, thereby preventing them from lining up people to slam the website to obtain inventory. Still, it's a valuable lottery ticket, so it's inconceivable that they won't sell out fast once the HHL is lifted.
Unless people know something I don't know (yes, I don't know everything! 😂), and the distribution of privys is disproportionately in favor of dealers, leaving little for the retail buyers on the web. But, since there is no way to know that, even if true, I doubt that is suppressing demand.
If they are still in stock at noon tomorrow, I'm quite sure a few lottery players will clean them out in an hour or so.
Let's just hope the USM distributed a proportionate # of privy's to the dealers in the 2-2.5% range. In that case if "no more than 10%" (USM guidlines) of a limited product is distributed to ABPP or Bulk Buyers, then they shouldnt have more than 180 or so privys.
The key is now how they packaged the privys in general. The packaging of medals comes in boxes of 100 from the minting facility - I know because I personally know one person who has purchased several 100 of other medals in the last 2 years in 99 count increments. The box received was a box of 100 stamped at the minting facility, ripped open - one taken out and resealed and shipped.
If the privys were packed 2-2.5 to every box of 100; this would be the best scenario. If someone were to buy in qty of 100, they should receive 2 or 3 privy's.
All of this is a BIG IF.
Yes. The key is, the 10% only refers to ABPP. Bulk purchases are outside that, and are not typically subject to a limit. It's unclear what they are doing with these, other than they are clearly doing something, because people are offering privys that are not Advance Release. They are coming from somewhere.
Yeah. They'll designate anything modern as an absolute rarity because, compared to classic mintages, anything the Mint puts out today is. 75K, 150K, 300K. All "absolutely rare" compared to millions of classic coins.
What they gloss over is the fact that almost no classic coins were preserved for posterity, while no modern Mint numismatic release ever enters circulation. Small detail that is lost on those who buy from TV.
@Onastone said:
Nobody even getting excited for the 230 special signed COA's?
230 of the privy marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director, Ventris C. Gibson
That should push the value really high!!!!
I’m some previous coins, pcgs wouldn’t certify and holder the certificate with the coin unless they were shipped together in a sealed box. Wonder if it’s the same way this time
I can't be 100% sure without checking with PCGS, but this is what their website currently says:
Source: https://www.pcgs.com/coa
IIRC from 21XK, they allowed you to submit a sealed box with a note asking them to only encapsulate the COA if it was signed.
Glad you brought this topic to the forefront. I was thinking this is one Mint issue I can open, because the HHL is only one. I remember buying the 2023 Unc. Peace $1, the Mint Director signed COA was in the box. I bought ten of them and when the box came it was too late for me. I broke the sacred rule, I opened the box. Now I have a worthless COA even though it is is very rare. We need to check with PCGS on this medal.
The HHL might be one, but nothing stops you from mixing and matching from several Mint accounts. Or the account of others.
That said, this whole thing with the certificates makes no sense, because it really shouldn't matter which certificate came with which medal. The key is simply that the certificate is signed. They should encapsulate a signed certificate regardless, because it's stupid to send in an unsigned certificate for certification.
27.12% MS69 non-privy FH seems a bit high for the dealer class.
Are the TPG's going to be tough on these medals?
Is the quality not quite there on this issue?
I wonder how many 69's or less will be out there for the retail crowd.
34 graded privy/ 752 graded is 4.5% vs the 2.4% population.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics. You cannot draw any conclusions from 1% of the sample size (752/75,000).
What are you talking about and how did you assume that from my percentage posted? Only an observation.
People can request minimum grades. Can the privy mark be a requirement for grading? If so perhaps more than 752 have passed through the hands at PCGS. I am not suggesting that is the case. I am asking if a privy can be a minimum requirement.
I'm commenting on your observation being statistically invalid, since it was based on looking at 752 data points out of 75,000. "Privy" is not a requirement, like 69 or 70. It is literally a different coin, with its own PCGS #.
You noted that privys comprise 4.5% of the early PCGS population, when it would only be expected to comprise 2.4%. And I shot back that that means nothing when you are looking at 752 items out of a total population of 75,000.
Your urge to comment on every post has you out over your skis. Stating the obvious is not needed, but thanks for your opinion on the privy falling under another PCGS identification.
@MetroD said:
IIRC from 21XK, they allowed you to submit a sealed box with a note asking them to only encapsulate the COA if it was signed.
Glad you brought this up. I like the medal, have no expectations of anything special, but I suppose there is a chance. So I was thinking of sending mine to be graded, sounds like I should not open it. So I just need to send the mint box and then enclose a letter re the COA if signed? Are there other considerations in terms of the submission form?
@MsMorrisine said:
so. to save everyone some time, how much does it cost to return 98?
Absolutely ZERO. Call the mint ask them for a return label. They email. You ship.
Is this the case for buyer's remorse, or not getting privys? I assumed you could return, but would be responsible for shipping.
"Return Policy
If for any reason within 7 days of receiving your product you are dissatisfied with your purchase, you can return the entire product for refund. Shipping charges will not be refunded for all returns."
@jdimmick said:
Reliable word on the street is several major players were allocated privy's , thats why they were able to presale em, cause they know they have em
Not a shock. If they are allowed to buy through ABPP or bulk purchase, of course they are going to be guaranteed to get some privys.
27.12% MS69 non-privy FH seems a bit high for the dealer class.
Are the TPG's going to be tough on these medals?
Is the quality not quite there on this issue?
I wonder how many 69's or less will be out there for the retail crowd.
34 graded privy/ 752 graded is 4.5% vs the 2.4% population.
Lies, damn lies, and statistics. You cannot draw any conclusions from 1% of the sample size (752/75,000).
What are you talking about and how did you assume that from my percentage posted? Only an observation.
People can request minimum grades. Can the privy mark be a requirement for grading? If so perhaps more than 752 have passed through the hands at PCGS. I am not suggesting that is the case. I am asking if a privy can be a minimum requirement.
I'm commenting on your observation being statistically invalid, since it was based on looking at 752 data points out of 75,000. "Privy" is not a requirement, like 69 or 70. It is literally a different coin, with its own PCGS #.
You noted that privys comprise 4.5% of the early PCGS population, when it would only be expected to comprise 2.4%. And I shot back that that means nothing when you are looking at 752 items out of a total population of 75,000.
Your urge to comment on every post has you out over your skis. Stating the obvious is not needed, but thanks for your opinion on the privy falling under another PCGS identification.
@VanHalen said:
We're at 12 hours and still available.
Because it’s a metal. If it weren’t for the gimmick they have going on not many would be paying any attention to it.
I do wonder if they only sell half of them if that means there will be half of the privy one that don’t make it out the door. Food for thought. Who will get the leftovers
@VanHalen said:
We're at 12 hours and still available.
Because it’s a metal. If it weren’t for the gimmick they have going on not many would be paying any attention to it.
I do wonder if they only sell half of them if that means there will be half of the privy one that don’t make it out the door. Food for thought. Who will get the leftovers
Martin
Its medal not metal and I think this design would attract some without the gimmick but the gimmick for sure is the bait. Even if they don’t sell out unopened boxes are always an unscratched lottery ticket.
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What are you talking about and how did you assume that from my percentage posted? Only an observation.
People can request minimum grades. Can the privy mark be a requirement for grading? If so perhaps more than 752 have passed through the hands at PCGS. I am not suggesting that is the case. I am asking if a privy can be a minimum requirement.
I have to admit, I miss these days.....
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1% of the population
752 is your sample size.
there's nothing more special about the medal than a privy mark. the design is the same. if the design plus medal combo was so hot the 75000 would be gone now and the masses would be fingernailless hoping for a privy mark and paying multiple over non-privy
if the plan was to buy and return hoping to score a 1794, why aren't they sold out?
wow
this eBay seller sold all of the privy mark medals at $5000 !!!!
Never thought they would sell out 75k in one afternoon.
If you did you must be dreaming again.
Now tomorrow when the HHL is released, thats a different story. If they dont sellout then, its DOA.
No more than 10% of this issue was reserved.
I'm commenting on your observation being statistically invalid, since it was based on looking at 752 data points out of 75,000. "Privy" is not a requirement, like 69 or 70. It is literally a different coin, with its own PCGS #.
You noted that privys comprise 4.5% of the early PCGS population, when it would only be expected to comprise 2.4%. And I shot back that that means nothing when you are looking at 752 items out of a total population of 75,000.
Yup. And there is nothing special about the 1995-W ASE, other than the mint mark. Or the 2020 WWII 75th Anniversary ASEs and AGEs, other than the privys. What's your point? Mine is that the privy, or mint mark, are everything, even though the rest of the coin or medal is exactly the same.
I honestly don't know why they are not yet sold out. But please, get back to me this time tomorrow, and let's see where we are then.
The dealers would have bought up 100% of the medals if they were allowed to because the privy medals guaranteed a profit of over 100% on every dollar spent.
That would translate into a profit of almost $8 million.
Correct. I meant to say, a sample size of 1% of the population. Nice catch! Glad to see at least one person is paying attention! 😀
Yeah, I guess I was dreaming. I have no way to know how many they sold to dealers ahead of time (clearly more than the 7500 going to ABPP, but unclear how much more). Even so, and even with a HHL of 1, I expected them to go as quickly as the website could handle the volume.
Apparently, the Mint is on to something with taking care of dealers separately, thereby preventing them from lining up people to slam the website to obtain inventory. Still, it's a valuable lottery ticket, so it's inconceivable that they won't sell out fast once the HHL is lifted.
Unless people know something I don't know (yes, I don't know everything! 😂), and the distribution of privys is disproportionately in favor of dealers, leaving little for the retail buyers on the web. But, since there is no way to know that, even if true, I doubt that is suppressing demand.
If they are still in stock at noon tomorrow, I'm quite sure a few lottery players will clean them out in an hour or so.
Duplicate. Someone else beat me to it.
Those grading stats are about as reliable as an election poll.
Currently the Mint site order page for these shows 7,464 available. They appear to have sold about 90% of what they listed.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
Yup. Already pointed out and fixed above.
Nobody even getting excited for the 230 special signed COA's?
230 of the privy marked medals will include a certificate of authenticity signed by United States Mint Director, Ventris C. Gibson
That should push the value really high!!!!
I’m some previous coins, pcgs wouldn’t certify and holder the certificate with the coin unless they were shipped together in a sealed box. Wonder if it’s the same way this time
No.....
ok i see your point
i still see something that is a medal in what might be a series of design remakes done as medals. they won't be as widely collected as the ase or age
i'm thinking this is why they haven't sold out
I can't be 100% sure without checking with PCGS, but this is what their website currently says:
Source: https://www.pcgs.com/coa
IIRC from 21XK, they allowed you to submit a sealed box with a note asking them to only encapsulate the COA if it was signed.
Glad you brought this topic to the forefront. I was thinking this is one Mint issue I can open, because the HHL is only one. I remember buying the 2023 Unc. Peace $1, the Mint Director signed COA was in the box. I bought ten of them and when the box came it was too late for me. I broke the sacred rule, I opened the box. Now I have a worthless COA even though it is is very rare. We need to check with PCGS on this medal.
Let's just hope the USM distributed a proportionate # of privy's to the dealers in the 2-2.5% range. In that case if "no more than 10%" (USM guidlines) of a limited product is distributed to ABPP or Bulk Buyers, then they shouldnt have more than 180 or so privys.
The key is now how they packaged the privys in general. The packaging of medals comes in boxes of 100 from the minting facility - I know because I personally know one person who has purchased several 100 of other medals in the last 2 years in 99 count increments. The box received was a box of 100 stamped at the minting facility, ripped open - one taken out and resealed and shipped.
If the privys were packed 2-2.5 to every box of 100; this would be the best scenario. If someone were to buy in qty of 100, they should receive 2 or 3 privy's.
All of this is a BIG IF.
the number in a carton depends upon the product's size
I've only seen a few here who like myself purchased the coin/medal because I love the 1794 Flowing Hair design! I don't really care if they sell out today, tomorrow or next week though I sure won't cry if I hit the lottery. As for the DEI COA, I couldn't care less! $100 sure doesn't buy much these days!
Got to love Rare Collectibles TV. NGC label says '100 Greatest U.S. Coins' and RCTV designates the FH Medal an Absolute Rarity.
RCTV Link
These seem to be the same size packaging as previous years medals that were purchased..I suspect boxes of 100.
The issue is you can buy up to 99 online.
I suppose you can call in an order of 100
Obviously you can buy more than 100 after HHL is lifted; just saying the online qty takes 99 but not 100
so. to save everyone some time, how much does it cost to return 98?
You might very well be right. I always thought medals didn't sell well because their subjects were more obscure or less popular. Not because people were hung up on whether or not the silver round, produced by the US Mint, on the same planchets as ASEs, were monetized.
The fact that these have not yet sold out might indicate that I am wrong about this.
Absolutely ZERO. Call the mint ask them for a return label. They email. You ship.
This number doesn't seem to move. Thoughts?
"availableCount":7544
Thank you
Reliable word on the street is several major players were allocated privy's , thats why they were able to presale em, cause they know they have em
Yes. The key is, the 10% only refers to ABPP. Bulk purchases are outside that, and are not typically subject to a limit. It's unclear what they are doing with these, other than they are clearly doing something, because people are offering privys that are not Advance Release. They are coming from somewhere.
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more popular than thought
now we wait for returns
Enough of this 💩. I am going to find out if I’m getting the privy.
Yeah. They'll designate anything modern as an absolute rarity because, compared to classic mintages, anything the Mint puts out today is. 75K, 150K, 300K. All "absolutely rare" compared to millions of classic coins.
What they gloss over is the fact that almost no classic coins were preserved for posterity, while no modern Mint numismatic release ever enters circulation. Small detail that is lost on those who buy from TV.
The HHL might be one, but nothing stops you from mixing and matching from several Mint accounts. Or the account of others.
That said, this whole thing with the certificates makes no sense, because it really shouldn't matter which certificate came with which medal. The key is simply that the certificate is signed. They should encapsulate a signed certificate regardless, because it's stupid to send in an unsigned certificate for certification.
Anyone get a strange USM confirm that shows 2 medals but only totals for 1 at 104?
Must be the special double medal🤪
Your urge to comment on every post has you out over your skis. Stating the obvious is not needed, but thanks for your opinion on the privy falling under another PCGS identification.
Glad you brought this up. I like the medal, have no expectations of anything special, but I suppose there is a chance. So I was thinking of sending mine to be graded, sounds like I should not open it. So I just need to send the mint box and then enclose a letter re the COA if signed? Are there other considerations in terms of the submission form?
Is this the case for buyer's remorse, or not getting privys? I assumed you could return, but would be responsible for shipping.
"Return Policy
If for any reason within 7 days of receiving your product you are dissatisfied with your purchase, you can return the entire product for refund. Shipping charges will not be refunded for all returns."
Not a shock. If they are allowed to buy through ABPP or bulk purchase, of course they are going to be guaranteed to get some privys.
My pleasure. 😀
We're at 12 hours and still available.
Because it’s a metal. If it weren’t for the gimmick they have going on not many would be paying any attention to it.
I do wonder if they only sell half of them if that means there will be half of the privy one that don’t make it out the door. Food for thought. Who will get the leftovers
Martin
Its medal not metal and I think this design would attract some without the gimmick but the gimmick for sure is the bait. Even if they don’t sell out unopened boxes are always an unscratched lottery ticket.