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  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 10, 2023 2:21PM
  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2023 8:06PM

    I don't know about rarity but these are not easily found. Picked this one up but hope to find a nicer example in the future.

    Weak reverse '22-D; single die crack right wheat stalk at about 4 o'clock:

  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely more difficult to find this weak reverse '22-D; single die crack left bottom wheat stalk to the 'O' in OF:

    Hopefully will find a better specimen in the future if they exist.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tramp said:
    Definitely more difficult to find this weak reverse '22-D; single die crack left bottom wheat stalk to the 'O' in OF:

    Hopefully will find a better specimen in the future if they exist.

    @Tramp said:
    Definitely more difficult to find this weak reverse '22-D; single die crack left bottom wheat stalk to the 'O' in OF:

    Hopefully will find a better specimen in the future if they exist.

    In my experience the die crack at 4 o’clock on the reverse is a bit scarcer than the one at 7:30 in low grade, and a lot scarcer in high grade.

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  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    In my experience the die crack at 4 o’clock on the reverse is a bit scarcer than the one at 7:30 in low grade, and a lot scarcer in high grade.

    Definitely both are not easy to find, even in low grades. I've only seen one in MS for the die crack at 7:30 and none yet for the 4 o'clock.

  • RipnrunRipnrun Posts: 15 ✭✭

    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ripnrun said:
    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

    Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?

    TD

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  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 24, 2023 12:32PM

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:
    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

    Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?

    TD

    Didn't PCGS stop labeling 'Weak D' and went strictly to labeling 'D' and 'no D'?

    (Correction) PCGS no longer labels 'No D Weak Reverse'.

  • RipnrunRipnrun Posts: 15 ✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:
    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

    Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?

    TD

    Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ripnrun said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:
    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

    Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?

    TD

    Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.

    These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
    Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.

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  • RipnrunRipnrun Posts: 15 ✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:
    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

    Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?

    TD

    Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.

    These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
    Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.

    @CaptHenway update?

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ripnrun said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Ripnrun said:
    Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?

    Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?

    TD

    Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.

    These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
    Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.

    @CaptHenway update?

    Sorry, having trouble identifying the variety. Can you please email the pictures to me at the email address in my profile?

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  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    I need a publisher.

    Ever find that publisher?

  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    Did CaptHenway ever find a publisher? I’ve got a bunch of "weak-d" 22-d cents.

  • TypekatTypekat Posts: 624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rnkmyer1 said:


    This coin looks like a great example of the rare ‘perfect dies’ variety of 1922-d Lincoln,
    AND,
    it looks fabulous!

    30+ years coin shop experience (ret.) Coins, bullion, currency, scrap & interesting folks. Loved every minute!

  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 365 ✭✭✭✭

    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TrickleCharge said:
    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

    Mike Fahey at ANACS has written about the die rotations normally seen on the four recognized ANACS varieties, but since some rotation is normal for that era I have not mentioned it on my 11 new varieties. I am relying on pictures of die characteristics for identification purposes.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gorebels said:
    Did CaptHenway ever find a publisher? I’ve got a bunch of "weak-d" 22-d cents.

    Not yet. I am still trying.

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  • gorebelsgorebels Posts: 131 ✭✭✭

    @ambro51 said:

    Type 4?

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ambro51 said:


    That appears to be my Die Pair #6.

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  • bramn8rbramn8r Posts: 951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2024 9:24AM

    1922-D MS63BN

  • bramn8rbramn8r Posts: 951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2024 9:23AM

    No D Strong Reverse VF20BN

  • bramn8rbramn8r Posts: 951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2024 9:22AM

    Weak D F12BN

  • vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the archives and not exactly the best quality pics because taken with older camera o:)


    A few in the raw


    :)

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TrickleCharge said:
    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

    Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?

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  • TrickleChargeTrickleCharge Posts: 365 ✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:

    @TrickleCharge said:
    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

    Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?

    Not that I am aware of. I don't think too many people are that interested in them. Still, things like die cracks, clashes and rotation can be especially useful in trying to identify strike type in some of the later years.

    I don't want to derail the thread though, and appreciate the response from @CaptHenway about the 1922-D rotations. Sounds like there are a lot of other identifying features to focus on. I certainly hope you are able to get your book published.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:

    @TrickleCharge said:
    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

    Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?

    Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.

    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Author of "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 21, 2024 2:29PM

    @CaptHenway said:

    @CRHer700 said:

    @TrickleCharge said:
    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

    Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?

    Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.

    I only have one tnn, and I would be embarrassed to show it. I am interested in interesting die chips, cracks, and damage, that's why I asked.

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @CRHer700 said:

    @TrickleCharge said:
    I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.

    Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?

    Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.

    I only have one tnn, and I would be embarrassed to show it. I am interested in interesting die chips, cracks, and damage, that's why I asked.

    Go ahead and run it. It doesn’t cost anything and you might learn something.

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  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A few more I have accumulated:

    DP #1, PCGS VF35:

    DP #3:

    DC-3A.2:

    DC-2:

    I have the DC-4 in NGC MS63 waiting for PCGS to crossover and TV. I will update with pic later.

    It helps to have @CaptHenway 's book, "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922".

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ah, I had forgotten about this thread. Thanks for reviving it.

    The book can be ordered through Whitman or Amazon. Or I can do autographed copies at $50 for the soft cover or $75 for the hard cover while supplies of the limited edition hard cover last.

    TD

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  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Some people like coins from new dies. Some people like coins from old dies. Here is a 1922 "No D" Cent from ANACS Die Pair #4 in what I am calling the XXLDS obverse die state, where the D is totally worn off of the die.

    The above Copyright 2024.
    Tom DeLorey

    Awesome DP #4 TD!

  • TPringTPring Posts: 223 ✭✭✭

    Weak D, no D... The most over-hyped coin in the Lincoln series and likely of all US coins

    Just remember...the advice you receive on the site is worth every bit of what you paid for it.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @robec said:

    That is a very nice coin. Is there something on the coin in hand that I am not seeing in the picture that would prevent it from being a higher number and/or color?

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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @robec said:

    That is a very nice coin. Is there something on the coin in hand that I am not seeing in the picture that would prevent it from being a higher number and/or color?

    I thought my ownership bias was thinking this coin should have a higher grade. Other than having been been graded by a company that grades a little more conservatively I don’t see any distractions. The color is BN without a doubt. Here is the CAC photo.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is that above the E of ONE that is more prominent in the CAC photo?

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2026 11:33AM

    Picked this one up recently on eBay, this is the weak D die pair 1. I also have a die pair 2 with a straight clip that I have shared here many times before.


    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

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  • TrampTramp Posts: 923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seanq said:
    Picked this one up recently on eBay, this is the weak D die pair 3.

    Did you mean DP#1 that's identified by the die crack?

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tramp said:

    @seanq said:
    Picked this one up recently on eBay, this is the weak D die pair 3.

    Did you mean DP#1 that's identified by the die crack?

    I did - confirming once again I am getting too old to attribute stuff from memory. I corrected my post above, thank you for pointing out my error.

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • pcgscacgoldpcgscacgold Posts: 3,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 3, 2026 1:56PM

    Kahn has a P40CAC 1922 no D strong reverse up for sale if anyone needs one.

    EDIT: Coin is now sold, about 90 mins after I posted this message. I hope someone here picked it up.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @seanq said:
    Picked this one up recently on eBay, this is the weak D die pair 1. I also have a die pair 2 with a straight clip that I have shared here many times before.


    Sean Reynolds

    This is actually one of my new DeLorey Varieties, Die Pair #Zero. It has the jogging die crack reverse later used on Die Pair #1, which is why I called it Die Pair #Zero to put it before Die Pair #1, and an obverse die amazingly similar to Die Pair #1, which is why nobody noticed that they were two different dies for 50+ years. Everybody just looked at the jogging die crack and automatically said "Oh, this is Die Pair #1!" I am sure that a large portion of the so-called Die Pair #1 coins out there are actually Die Pair #Zero.

    See the book for the differences between the two obverse dies, and the die characteristic in the WE of IN GOD WE TRUST that makes it easy to tell them apart.

    TD

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