@Tramp said:
Definitely more difficult to find this weak reverse '22-D; single die crack left bottom wheat stalk to the 'O' in OF:
Hopefully will find a better specimen in the future if they exist.
@Tramp said:
Definitely more difficult to find this weak reverse '22-D; single die crack left bottom wheat stalk to the 'O' in OF:
Hopefully will find a better specimen in the future if they exist.
In my experience the die crack at 4 o’clock on the reverse is a bit scarcer than the one at 7:30 in low grade, and a lot scarcer in high grade.
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Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
@Ripnrun said:
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
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@Ripnrun said:
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
Didn't PCGS stop labeling 'Weak D' and went strictly to labeling 'D' and 'no D'?
(Correction) PCGS no longer labels 'No D Weak Reverse'.
@Ripnrun said:
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.
@Ripnrun said:
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.
These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.
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@Ripnrun said:
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.
These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.
@Ripnrun said:
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.
These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.
Sorry, having trouble identifying the variety. Can you please email the pictures to me at the email address in my profile?
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I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
@TrickleCharge said:
I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Mike Fahey at ANACS has written about the die rotations normally seen on the four recognized ANACS varieties, but since some rotation is normal for that era I have not mentioned it on my 11 new varieties. I am relying on pictures of die characteristics for identification purposes.
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@gorebels said:
Did CaptHenway ever find a publisher? I’ve got a bunch of "weak-d" 22-d cents.
Not yet. I am still trying.
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@TrickleCharge said:
I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?
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@TrickleCharge said:
I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?
Not that I am aware of. I don't think too many people are that interested in them. Still, things like die cracks, clashes and rotation can be especially useful in trying to identify strike type in some of the later years.
I don't want to derail the thread though, and appreciate the response from @CaptHenway about the 1922-D rotations. Sounds like there are a lot of other identifying features to focus on. I certainly hope you are able to get your book published.
@TrickleCharge said:
I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?
Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.
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@TrickleCharge said:
I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?
Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.
I only have one tnn, and I would be embarrassed to show it. I am interested in interesting die chips, cracks, and damage, that's why I asked.
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@TrickleCharge said:
I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?
Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.
I only have one tnn, and I would be embarrassed to show it. I am interested in interesting die chips, cracks, and damage, that's why I asked.
Go ahead and run it. It doesn’t cost anything and you might learn something.
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Some people like coins from new dies. Some people like coins from old dies. Here is a 1922 "No D" Cent from ANACS Die Pair #4 in what I am calling the XXLDS obverse die state, where the D is totally worn off of the die.
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I like the contrasting color.
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My current Registry sets:
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I don't know about rarity but these are not easily found. Picked this one up but hope to find a nicer example in the future.
Weak reverse '22-D; single die crack right wheat stalk at about 4 o'clock:
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My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
Definitely more difficult to find this weak reverse '22-D; single die crack left bottom wheat stalk to the 'O' in OF:
Hopefully will find a better specimen in the future if they exist.
USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
In my experience the die crack at 4 o’clock on the reverse is a bit scarcer than the one at 7:30 in low grade, and a lot scarcer in high grade.
Definitely both are not easy to find, even in low grades. I've only seen one in MS for the die crack at 7:30 and none yet for the 4 o'clock.
USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
Can someone help me out with an opinion? Purchased this earlier this week and it came in today. Certified as a regular 1922-d in 63rb by PCGS. Certainly looks like a weak D from the photos and in person. Did pcgs miss it or am I just crazy?
Hi. I think I recognize that variety but the pictures are a bit vague. Can you try photographing it again, or perhaps posting a link to the seller's original listing?
TD
Didn't PCGS stop labeling 'Weak D' and went strictly to labeling 'D' and 'no D'?
(Correction) PCGS no longer labels 'No D Weak Reverse'.
USAF (Ret.) 1985 - 2005. E-4B Aircraft Maintenance Crew Chief and Contracting Officer.
My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
Those were the seller's pictures. I have added a few of my own, not sure how much better they are but let me know if you need me to focus on any specific area.
These are much better. Thank you. I do know this die.
Watching the news right now. Will comment tomorrow.
@CaptHenway update?
Sorry, having trouble identifying the variety. Can you please email the pictures to me at the email address in my profile?
Ever find that publisher?
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Did CaptHenway ever find a publisher? I’ve got a bunch of "weak-d" 22-d cents.
This coin looks like a great example of the rare ‘perfect dies’ variety of 1922-d Lincoln,
AND,
it looks fabulous!
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I think I may own a total of one normal 1922-D cent, but this thread is fascinating. The use of die crack progression and clashes talked about here is something that I look at frequently in the three cent nickel series. I see the coin posted by @rnkmyer1 has a minor die rotation. I am curious, has anyone taken a closer look at die rotations in1922-D cents? Even a minor one could be another helpful tool when looking at dies or die states.
Mike Fahey at ANACS has written about the die rotations normally seen on the four recognized ANACS varieties, but since some rotation is normal for that era I have not mentioned it on my 11 new varieties. I am relying on pictures of die characteristics for identification purposes.
They can be found nice.
Not yet. I am still trying.
Type 4?
That appears to be my Die Pair #6.
1922-D MS63BN
No D Strong Reverse VF20BN
Weak D F12BN
From the archives and not exactly the best quality pics because taken with older camera
A few in the raw
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
Is there a thread about die cracks on three cent nickels?
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Not that I am aware of. I don't think too many people are that interested in them. Still, things like die cracks, clashes and rotation can be especially useful in trying to identify strike type in some of the later years.
I don't want to derail the thread though, and appreciate the response from @CaptHenway about the 1922-D rotations. Sounds like there are a lot of other identifying features to focus on. I certainly hope you are able to get your book published.
Perhaps you would care to start one, using examples of what you have, and others will chime in.
I only have one tnn, and I would be embarrassed to show it. I am interested in interesting die chips, cracks, and damage, that's why I asked.
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Some people like coins from new dies. Some people like coins from old dies. Here is a 1922 "No D" Cent from ANACS Die Pair #4 in what I am calling the XXLDS obverse die state, where the D is totally worn off of the die.
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Tom DeLorey