An Overton set of 1820 capped bust halves.....Post your 1820 CBH if you got one

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drddm
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edited May 13, 2024 6:42AM in U.S. Coin Forum

In the CBH series, 1820 has the third lowest mintage with only 751,122, behind the 1815/2 and 1807. It has just 8 different Overton die marriages, with the O.107 being the toughest to find as it’s an R5. It also has quite a few different varieties making it even more interesting and challenging to assemble, including two different die marriages with overdates, the 1820/19 square base 2, and the 1820/19 curl base 2. It has a die marriage with a curl base 2 and a small date, two different die marriages with a knobbed square base 2 and a large date, two die marriages with no knob and a square base on the 2 but with a large date, and the toughest die marriage to locate which also has no knob, a square base on the 2 and a large date but missing the right serifs on the A’s and the left serifs on the E’s on the reverse. If all these different varieties weren’t enough, the final die marriage for the year, the O.108, also has a doubled die reverse, made from hub doubling, which can be seen on the left wing, talons, claws, leaves, berries, and arrow heads.

I recently and finally found the last die marriage I needed to complete the 1820’s, the O.106.
And so, here are all eight die marriages in order. Comments welcome...Enjoy!

Feel free to post an 1820 CBH if you have one!!!

1820/19 Square Base 2, AU58, O.101

1820/19 Curl Base 2, AU58+ CAC, O.102

1820 Curl Base 2 Small Date, MS63 CAC, O.103a (Ex. McClerg, Queller)

1820 Square 2 Large Date Knob 2, AU55 CAC, O.104 (Ex. Peterson)

1820 Square 2 Large Date Knob 2, AU58+, O.105a

1820 Square 2 Large Date No Knob, AU58 CAC, O.106 (Ex Pugh, Hamilton)

1820 No Serif’s, AU55, O.107 (Ex. Sears)

1820 Square 2 Large Date No Knob, MS62 CAC, O.108 (Ex. Eliasberg)

Dave

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  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tough coins, and all in gorgeous condition - well done!

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  • OKbustchaser
    OKbustchaser Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice.

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice!

  • Victa
    Victa Posts: 43 ✭✭✭
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    Very tough die marriage set to complete, even in lower grades. To see them together in such choice condition is pure eye-candy. Well done!!

  • johnny9434
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    Nice, that's what we strive for

  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    They all look like early die states. The stars aren't bleeding into the rims. That's what I like!

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Pnies20
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    @drddm Love the Eliasberg 108. Do you know who owned it prior to Eliasberg? Was it owned by Clapp?

    BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.

  • sparky64
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    Stunning set, congrats!

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  • psuman08
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    Spectacular group of 20s. Thanks for sharing

  • LJenkins11
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    Great collection of coins!

  • Bikergeek
    Bikergeek Posts: 703 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What a gorgeous run of coins!

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  • lilolme
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    Coolness factor.

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  • drddm
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    Thanks for all the kind words. As anyone who has tried to put together a set of anything knows, it’s truly a labor of love trying to find just the right pieces.

    I’ve been fortunate in acquiring many of these coins, and am grateful to all those who have helped me assemble them.

    @Pnies20 Thanks, but unfortunately my 108 was not described in the Eliasberg catalog as having any provenance, so definitely not part of the Clapp collection. I’ve always wondered where it came from prior to getting into Eliasberg’s collection, however I doubt I will ever be able to get that info.

    Dave

  • jacrispies
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    Totally crazy! You have a great eye and patience to wait for the best coins. Thank you for sharing!

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  • golden
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    Very nice coins.

  • Capstick
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    Very nice Dave! All stunners

  • logger7
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    Very choice and pleasing Bust halves!

  • kaz
    kaz Posts: 9,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Lovely set, thanks for sharing!

  • Walkerfan
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    Beautiful Busties! 😍🤩

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  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Congratulations on the 106 Dave!

    That is an AMAZING run of 1820's!! <3<3<3

    Heck of an accomplishment!!!


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  • fiftysevener
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    What a gorgeous look. Has JA seen those yet ?

  • EastonCollection
    EastonCollection Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Your taste for CBH are right on and consistent with my taste. You are a coin connoisseur and should be very proud of your collection! You tha Man!

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  • RobertScotLover
    RobertScotLover Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Stunning mini as well as difficult set

  • brianc1959
    brianc1959 Posts: 350 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice - and also helpful. I was using your set to attempt an attribution of my sole 1820 half, and I've narrowed it down to either O.104 or O.105. Unfortunately, I can't tell them apart - can you give guidance?

  • coin22lover
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    That's incredible. Does your O-104 have any trace of the crack through IC?

  • coin22lover
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    @brianc1959 said:
    Very nice - and also helpful. I was using your set to attempt an attribution of my sole 1820 half, and I've narrowed it down to either O.104 or O.105. Unfortunately, I can't tell them apart - can you give guidance?

    The best way to tell is the spacing at 50 C on the reverse. Compare them and you'll see!

  • ElmerFusterpuck
    ElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awesome set! Any nice 1820 will get my attention.

  • jayPem
    jayPem Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow Dave!
    1820 is certainly a special year for CBH!

  • OKbustchaser
    OKbustchaser Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @brianc1959 said:
    Very nice - and also helpful. I was using your set to attempt an attribution of my sole 1820 half, and I've narrowed it down to either O.104 or O.105. Unfortunately, I can't tell them apart - can you give guidance?

    Check out the T to I relationship on the reverse. On 104 the left sides of both are in line; on 105 the i is centered under the right side of the T,

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • drddm
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    edited May 13, 2024 3:12AM
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    @coin22lover said:
    That's incredible. Does your O-104 have any trace of the crack through IC?

    Thanks. I don’t believe so. The late die state, O.104a is hard to find.

    Dave

  • Pnies20
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    @brianc1959 said:
    Very nice - and also helpful. I was using your set to attempt an attribution of my sole 1820 half, and I've narrowed it down to either O.104 or O.105. Unfortunately, I can't tell them apart - can you give guidance?

    The way I do it is to look at the D in United on the reverse.

    The D on the 104 looks like it’s “falling off”. Here’s a pic of both the 104 and 105 reverse.

    BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.

  • lkeigwin
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    @OKbustchaser said:

    @brianc1959 said:
    Very nice - and also helpful. I was using your set to attempt an attribution of my sole 1820 half, and I've narrowed it down to either O.104 or O.105. Unfortunately, I can't tell them apart - can you give guidance?

    Check out the T to I relationship on the reverse. On 104 the left sides of both are in line; on 105 the i is centered under the right side of the T,

    Yup. Very simple. O.104 and O.105 below.
    Lance.

  • TwoSides2aCoin
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    Sorry, I can't post one. You've got them all :blush:

  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice set of 1820s. Here's mine (O-105)

  • Walkerguy21D
    Walkerguy21D Posts: 12,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My relative lowball, but still attractive O106, and thanks @drddm for your information via pm:

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  • jacrispies
    jacrispies Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've shared this one before but this is my 105, struck three times and counterstamped.

    "But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you" Matthew 6:33. Young fellow suffering from Bust Half fever.
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  • oldUScoins
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    Here is a recent purchase for me:

  • Pnies20
    Pnies20 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Since everyone is posting 105s

    BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.

  • JonBrand83
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    Very impressive, beautiful coins too!

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  • Herb_T
    Herb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2024 8:48PM
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    No serifs

  • drddm
    drddm Posts: 5,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Great coins, everyone! Keep posting them.

    @jacrispies Wow, super cool find!! <3

  • psuman08
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    O-105a w/ poor yellow True View

  • psuman08
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    O-106

  • BigMoose
    BigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
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    My 3----
    cert#25648124 O.103
    cert#25241740 O.105
    cert#25241742 O.102

    TomT-1794

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  • BigMoose
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    Sorry as I am computer challenged.

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  • OKbustchaser
    OKbustchaser Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2024 2:52PM
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    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • OKbustchaser
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    edited May 14, 2024 2:50PM
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    double post

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.

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