One of my favs with some local history:
This is the Howell Works Garden Hard Times token struck over an 1820 Large Cent!
Was lucky enough to win this impossible addition to my collection a few years back. I love to study it's details
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Was just poking around in an old hard drive and figured it would be neat to repost this since all the thousands of TinyPic image uploads I did on here vanished.
1863 Major General George B. McClellan, 32mm Diameter, Copper, Dewitt GMcC-1864-13 / Schenkman C-24, Struck by die sinker Joseph H. Merriam.
J. Doyle Dewitt in 1959 stated this medal is dated 1863 as that is when the dies were made and that it was distributed during McClellan's 1864 Presidential Campaign which is not the case. Joseph H. Merriam struck a series of "Civil War Union General" medals in 1863 which also included Major General Philip Kearney and Major General Joseph Hooker featuring the similar obverse die design and the exact reverse die. David E. Schenkman considered it "Rare" in his 1980 article on Boston medalist Joseph H. Merriam which featured plated examples of all Merriam's works however he was not able to provide photographs of this McClellan. The provenance on this example traces back to A. Ramsey McCoy whose Political Campaign medal & token collection was already hailed as a major accomplishment in 1866. This includes a handwritten ticket by Hillyer Ryder stating this was "McCoy's first seen in copper" and as Ramsey traveled the country in his pursuit may very well have received this directly from Merriam at the time of issue. McCoy's collection was sold in 1918 by Thomas Elder. This was won by Hillyer Ryder who's collection was later acquired by Fredrick C. C. Boyd collection. Continuing the provenance trail Boyd's collection was acquired intact from his widow by John J. Ford, Jr. A Superb Gem (MS67) which in hand is fully proof-like brilliant red and although NGC conservatively opted to call this RB they could have designated it as RD. Since this is fully proof like the dark areas on the obverse are actually a reflection of my black camera body positioned about 18" above.
The only thing I can hope for is to someday have a mustache like that General McClellan fellow.
</> Everybody wants to get the bread, but no one wants to eat the crust. </>
Color on copper is a very natural progression. Old RD copper is just not believable........although I do have a 1906 IHC RD coin that I bought over 60 years ago.
Problem is the 1866 you posted has very little curb appeal. Maybe even worse that the 1863 you posted. You can collect coins based upon the PCGS/ANA grading standards, but they will not provide you an attractive collection. Only a collection that rates high in their grading standard. I tend to collect coins that have the greatest eye appeal, at the highest possible grade available. Not the highest graded coins that are POP 1, but have no distinguishing features.
@OldIndianNutKase said:
Would you not rather have this one........
Color on copper is a very natural progression. Old RD copper is just not believable........although I do have a 1906 IHC RD coin that I bought over 60 years ago.
OINK
The 1863 is PR64BN. The TrueView is how it appears under a spotlight. The shots below were iPhone under a single bulb. It’s quite attractive, no visible hairlines, I’m not sure what CAC didn’t like about it.
@OldIndianNutKase said:
Would you not rather have this one........
Color on copper is a very natural progression. Old RD copper is just not believable........although I do have a 1906 IHC RD coin that I bought over 60 years ago.
OINK
The 1863 is PR64BN. The TrueView is how it appears under a spotlight. The shots below were iPhone under a single bulb. It’s quite attractive, no visible hairlines, I’m not sure what CAC didn’t like about it.
My response was to @Raybo, and based not on the quality of the coin that you posted. It was somewhat of an unfair comparison as the coin I posted was a 66 and yours is a 64. Obviously I was comparing apples with oranges. Different price point. I do think the Harry Bass provenance is more significant than a CAC endorsement on your PR64.
I do have issues with the PCGS/ANA grading standards that do not reflect current market standard acceptance/pricing, a grading standard that was originally formulated to reflect the fungible value of a coin. Perhaps the PCGS grade needs to better reflect the current market value, giving credit to monetary factors that seem to be ignored as to a coin's value. Probably a much bigger issue lies with ANA grading standard, than with PCGS. ANA seems to be very much a dinosaur. The ANA standard needs to reflect ALL issues surrounding the grade of the coin.
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Very nice example of a tougher middle date above XF! I’m jealous!
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Beautiful copper everyone! Thanks for sharing. I've taken a bit of a hiatus from coins lately... but found this one in pocket change a few days ago...
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From Tom Reynolds at the Baltimore Whitman Coin Expo...
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This is the Howell Works Garden Hard Times token struck over an 1820 Large Cent!
Was lucky enough to win this impossible addition to my collection a few years back. I love to study it's details
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My latest copper:
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The only thing I can hope for is to someday have a mustache like that General McClellan fellow.
</> Everybody wants to get the bread, but no one wants to eat the crust. </>
Got this one just in time for the weekend:
I've got these two on the way. Seller's photos...
1839 N-11 Booby Head
1837 N-3 Plain Cords
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I would like this coin please.
I might have to get a second opinion on this coin.
Would you not rather have this one........
Color on copper is a very natural progression. Old RD copper is just not believable........although I do have a 1906 IHC RD coin that I bought over 60 years ago.
OINK
Thanks for the offer OINK but I already have one.
Problem is the 1866 you posted has very little curb appeal. Maybe even worse that the 1863 you posted. You can collect coins based upon the PCGS/ANA grading standards, but they will not provide you an attractive collection. Only a collection that rates high in their grading standard. I tend to collect coins that have the greatest eye appeal, at the highest possible grade available. Not the highest graded coins that are POP 1, but have no distinguishing features.
The 1863 is PR64BN. The TrueView is how it appears under a spotlight. The shots below were iPhone under a single bulb. It’s quite attractive, no visible hairlines, I’m not sure what CAC didn’t like about it.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
My response was to @Raybo, and based not on the quality of the coin that you posted. It was somewhat of an unfair comparison as the coin I posted was a 66 and yours is a 64. Obviously I was comparing apples with oranges. Different price point. I do think the Harry Bass provenance is more significant than a CAC endorsement on your PR64.
I do have issues with the PCGS/ANA grading standards that do not reflect current market standard acceptance/pricing, a grading standard that was originally formulated to reflect the fungible value of a coin. Perhaps the PCGS grade needs to better reflect the current market value, giving credit to monetary factors that seem to be ignored as to a coin's value. Probably a much bigger issue lies with ANA grading standard, than with PCGS. ANA seems to be very much a dinosaur. The ANA standard needs to reflect ALL issues surrounding the grade of the coin.