Couldn’t be any HAPPIER with my 8 coin CBH Reconsideration submission results!!

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drddm
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Submitted eight AU58 bust halves for plus only Reconsideration back in March and just got my results….4 out of 8 plussed!

1809 III Edge AU58+ CAC

1819 AU58+ Gold CAC

1832 AU58+ CAC (Ex. Myer) Prooflike

1834 Large Date, Small Letters AU58+ CAC

Dave

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  • Mr_Spud
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    Nice!

    Mr_Spud

  • Capstick
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    @drddm Very nice!! They're all great but that 32 is spectacular

  • pursuitofliberty
    pursuitofliberty Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And we call the good Doctor, Mister Plus!!

    Like them even more on the big screen! The phone was tough to really enjoy their majesty!


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  • Eldorado9
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    All beauties! Super original, not a dipped out coin in sight!

  • Batman23
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    Very nice looking busts. Congrats on the pluses.

  • drddm
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    Thanks for the kind words.

    Phil Arnold did an amazing job, as usual, bringing out the colorful toning on them.

  • Pnies20
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    :o

    wow

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  • TomB
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    Holy Cow!

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  • WaterSport
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    I can see why they + - Very nice coins.

    WS

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  • Project Numismatics
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    Outstanding!

  • TennesseeDave
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    I love them all, but especially the 09 and 19. That's a rare grade and they're probably nicer than most 63's.

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  • opportunity
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    Is PL on the holder for the 1832??

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  • Goldbully
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    You have the best eye for colorful CBH's on this forum, Dave.

    Love the ladies.

    Congrats on the upgrades!

  • fastfreddie
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    Very Nice!

    An AU58+ Gold CAC...can't get closer to MS than that. Winner winner chicken dinner!

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  • drddm
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    @opportunity said:
    Is PL on the holder for the 1832??

    No, PCGS does not recognize PL in the circulated grades, only MS….although they really should. 😬

  • jesbroken
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    That is tremendous and after seeing the subjects it's a wonder more didn't upgrade. Nice coins.
    Jim


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  • opportunity
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    @drddm said:

    @opportunity said:
    Is PL on the holder for the 1832??

    No, PCGS does not recognize PL in the circulated grades, only MS….although they really should. 😬

    That's what I thought...I'm sure it speaks for itself.

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  • Herb_T
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    Home run!

  • keyman64
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    Wow, very impressive! Congratulations!

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  • joeykoins
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    B)
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  • 2windy2fish
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    Spectacular!

  • RobertScotLover
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    A gorgeous submission!

  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Congratulations on your results:

    1. Getting four of eight to upgrade is truly a fantastic result, considering PCGS graders, each with a finalizer, specifically said in the past that none of the eight merited a plus!
    2. My understanding (and experience) seems to indicate that PCGS has tightened up over the past nine months or so. As such, congratulations, but the bottom line is the coins talk for themselves. They merit the pluses!
    3. I’m glad to see that you recognize the benefit of maximizing the value of your coins. My sense is way too many collectors won’t take those actions. You’ve been well rewarded!

    Steve

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  • ricko
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    Congratulations on great results... Four out of eight upgrades. Cheers, RickO

  • ThreeCentSilverFL
    ThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Those are just incredibly beautiful examples! Awesome results too!

  • Catbert
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    All four are really beautiful, regardless of grade. Just wonderful!

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  • RichieURich
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    You have always had a very good eye for quality coins! Congratulations on your upgrades!

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  • jacrispies
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    Nice! Just curious, were you expecting the color to solely contribute to the plus designation?

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  • drddm
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    @jacrispies said:
    Nice! Just curious, were you expecting the color to solely contribute to the plus designation?

    Not at all, actually. On these particular coins, they have very nice surfaces and excellent luster for the grade. In my opinion, the attractive toning helped but definitely wasn't the sole contributor to the plus designation.

    Just curious, do you think that one or some of them do not deserve the plus designation?

    Dave

  • jacrispies
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    @drddm Not in particular. I am a technical grader so I would assume an AU-58+ has luster of a low mint state. Judging luster and surfaces by truviews are close to impossible for me.

    All the coins look very choice, I see nothing that would prevent these coins from getting a plus.👍🏻

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  • jayPem
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    Fantastic Dave!

  • drddm
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    @jacrispies said:

    Judging luster and surfaces by truviews are close to impossible for me.

    And for me as well. And I’m sure lots of other people too. But in my opinion based on knowing these coins personally, the plus was deserving.

    Dave

  • lkenefic
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    Wow! ...just... WOW! That 1832 in particular!!

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  • cappedlibertyx
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    Each look like they came from a Sheridan Auction. Amazing coins. Congratulations on your results. Well earned.

  • Barberian
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    @drddm said:

    @jacrispies said:

    Judging luster and surfaces by truviews are close to impossible for me.

    And for me as well. And I’m sure lots of other people too. But in my opinion based on knowing these coins personally, the plus was deserving.

    Dave

    So why didn't they give them a plus initially?

  • drddm
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    @Barberian said:

    So why didn't they give them a plus initially?

    I have no idea 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • gumby1234
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    Loving the 1832

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    Splendid coins!

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  • JBN
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    Beautiful half dollars. Wonderful looks. Congratulations on your successful result.

  • alaura22
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    Glad you're happy with the grades
    Question:
    Did you lose the pedigree? OR did they reapply it
    Also, will you get the gold sticker back?

    Mike
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  • percyb
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    I love the bust halves. My sincere congrats on the grading of those beauties!!

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  • drddm
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    @alaura22 said:
    Glad you're happy with the grades
    Question:
    Did you lose the pedigree? OR did they reapply it
    Also, will you get the gold sticker back?

    No, I did not lose the pedigree. I indicated on my submission form that I wanted to keep the pedigree and it will be on the new insert as well. I’ve done this many times without a problem.

    As for the gold CAC sticker, when using the reconsideration service at PCGS, if a coin upgrades the cert # stays the same, so all I have to do is send the coin back to CAC, pay the new $5 restickering fee and they will put it back on.

    Dave

  • logger7
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    It's very tough to get the 58+ grade at PCGS so that should more than pay for all the costs of submission.

  • 1630Boston
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    :)

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  • Victa
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    Simply an outstanding selection of Bust Halves. I just love the colorful toning and choice surfaces adorning these little ladies. Congrats on the upgrades...well-played.

  • gumby1234
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    Well I would think you would have been much MUCH happier if all 8 coins received a plus upgrade. Just sayin'

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  • drddm
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    @logger7 said:
    It's very tough to get the 58+ grade at PCGS so that should more than pay for all the costs of submission.

    You are correct that’s it not easy to get an AU58+, especially in the capped bust half series, of course that’s just my experience.

    And I was fortunate to have gotten these plusses using my 8 coin free voucher so my out of pocket costs were minimal.

    Dave

  • crazyhounddog
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    Congratulations

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  • BryceM
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    How would you feel if these came back in MS61 or MS62 holders? For me personally, it would be less desirable, by far, than a 58+ CAC grade. It remains, as my wife says, "a weirdity" of the grading system we all know and love.

    Gorgeous coins in a really fun series.

  • drddm
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    @BryceM said:
    How would you feel if these came back in MS61 or MS62 holders? For me personally, it would be less desirable, by far, than a 58+ CAC grade. It remains, as my wife says, "a weirdity" of the grading system we all know and love.

    Gorgeous coins in a really fun series.

    Thanks, Bryce!

    Great question, and I completely agree with you. I actually have tried numerous times to send in certain AU58’s in hopes of getting that ever so desirable plus, and on a few occasions the coins have come back as a 61 or 62. I will always prefer a 58+, but for the 61’s I now have I will likely crack them out and submit them for regrading. My biggest fear is that they come back in a details holder….but hopefully not. Personally, I am not one to play the crackout game. In all the years I have gotten upgrades, I have always sent my coins in for regrade in their holders. So soon I will be in uncharted waters….wish me luck! 😬

    Dave

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