What's going on with this Buffalo 5¢ - Update in First Post

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Cladiator
Cladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 4, 2023 4:23PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Picked this up recently, it's in PCGS AU58 plastic. What do you think is happening in the two areas pointed out in the pics below? Clip? PMD? There is no mention of any error or damage on the slab label or on the coin's verification page at the PCGS website.

You guys were right, as always. Didn't want to wait until March though. Got it back from our hosts today. Fun stuff.

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  • Relaxn
    Relaxn Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That poor die... That was one tired and used die. Your coin has so much personality I am surprised it has not started talking to you.

  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Minor but a still cool clip

  • MarkKelley
    MarkKelley Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Most definitely a clip. Nice by itself but being on a better date makes it a coin I'd like to own!

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A rim clip indeed....Nice find and I would get the slab label updated. Cheers, RickO

  • Rampage
    Rampage Posts: 9,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    As stated, that is a minor rim clip. Does the label say clip, or is it not noted as an error?

  • OnWithTheHunt
    OnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It also could be an early die state for the 3-1/2 legger. Every 16-D 3HL I've found has the same kind of obverse deterioration, including the die crack under the date. Reverse deterioration is not as advanced as on the variety.

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  • crazyhounddog
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    That is one used and abused way worn out die. Probably one of the most used I’ve ever seen. I agree with the planchet being clipped. All told it’s a very cool coin👍

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  • Cladiator
    Cladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ok cool, thanks for the info folks. I'll bring it with me in March to Phoenix and see if PCGS will reholder with the clip mentioned on the label.

  • jacrispies
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    I vote 100% clip. Nice!!

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  • seanq
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    Definitely a rim clip, as others have noted.

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  • lilolme
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    @Cladiator said:
    Ok cool, thanks for the info folks. I'll bring it with me in March to Phoenix and see if PCGS will reholder with the clip mentioned on the label.

    Maybe? Note that pcgs is currently not grading at the ANA Phoenix show in March so don't know about it being done there. Also pcgs has a mint error submission level that is normally used to get errors denoted. I believe then it will have an error coin number.

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  • Cladiator
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    @lilolme said:

    @Cladiator said:
    Ok cool, thanks for the info folks. I'll bring it with me in March to Phoenix and see if PCGS will reholder with the clip mentioned on the label.

    Maybe? Note that pcgs is currently not grading at the ANA Phoenix show in March so don't know about it being done there. Also pcgs has a mint error submission level that is normally used to get errors denoted. I believe then it will have an error coin number.

    Link for ANA Phoenix show.
    https://www.pcgs.com/shows/detail/6715

    Yeah I wasn't planning on getting it back in Phoenix, just submitting it (under whatever level is needed to get the clip on the label). I'm fine with them mailing it back to me as a Christmas present lol.

  • Cladiator
    Cladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You guys were right, as always. Didn't want to wait until March though. Got it back from our hosts today. Fun stuff.

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