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jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 6, 2022 4:33AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I was never expecting to see this coin at my local coin show that I attended yesterday. Been on my list since I started collecting Flying Eagle and Indian head cents. I am now the new owner. Photos are not the best because this coin faces up much nicer in hand. This was a once in a lifetime for me.

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy cow!’
    That’s really amazing 😁. I’m not an expert ( although I portray one on the forum 😂) but I think it’s magnificent. Haven’t seen many. I can’t imagine how happy you must be 🥳
    Congratulations buddy

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on a great acquisition. Very nice coin. Cheers, RickO

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool! Amazing strike on that eagle.
    A classic American coin that is or was on every collector’s “want to have “ list at one time or another.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on what must have been a thrilling acquisition!

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    justindanjustindan Posts: 939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats!

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    ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice

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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations! Nice coin!

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That coin is one that I never thought about or held inhand, but now will be in my mind forever. It is absolutely gorgeous. Congratulations.
    That is a collector's dream.
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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,463 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on acquiring a really great and cool coin! I certainly can understand your shock at seeing this at a smaller show.

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    YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice!
    Congratulations

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    FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love it- congratulations!

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coin and congratulations on the fantastic acquisition.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you everyone for your kind and positive comments. I am thrilled beyond belief!

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    jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 2,031 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!!!

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What an outstanding specimen and acquisition ... and it almost sounds like it came looking for YOU!


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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coin - congrats! The eagle immediately draws the eye as it should! If this was a guess the grade, I definitely would have guessed higher than 63!

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow very nice!

    Collector, occasional seller

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats, you'll be happy with that for many many years

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    shortnockshortnock Posts: 498 ✭✭✭

    Wooof!

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really awesome! 👍

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    hbarbeehbarbee Posts: 223 ✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coin. Impressive. It may not make a 64 because of the anomalies in the fields but that would be the big step up in value. The CAC helps. If you could get Rick Snow to sticker it, that would be a huge value adder to Eagle/Indian collectors. Congratulations.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Again, let me thank everyone for their kind and encouraging remarks. How would I go about sending it to Rick Snow to have an Eagle Eye certification done?

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    lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:
    How would I go about sending it to Rick Snow to have an Eagle Eye certification done?

    https://www.indiancent.com//photoseal/

    Near the bottom of the webpage.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lilolme, thanks for the info.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anyway, what would be the advantage for a photo seal from Rick Snow's Eagle Eye cert, if there's already a green bean CAC sticker on the holder? It seems redundant and the CAC sticker trumps the photo seal pretty much anyway, right?

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:
    Anyway, what would be the advantage for a photo seal from Rick Snow's Eagle Eye cert, if there's already a green bean CAC sticker on the holder? It seems redundant and the CAC sticker trumps the photo seal pretty much anyway, right?

    .
    I can't speak to the FE group, but I think the PCGS/CAC combo has you covered. I can't imagine a huge advantage to getting a Eagle Eye at this point, but that's up to you of course.


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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,916 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy cow. Wasn’t expecting a monster like this. Congrats!!!

    Dave

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Super nice coin!

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! Very nice coin and a great one to add too any collection. I can remember dreaming about having a coin that would fill the "rare" slot on my old Whitman Coin folder.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:
    Anyway, what would be the advantage for a photo seal from Rick Snow's Eagle Eye cert, if there's already a green bean CAC sticker on the holder? It seems redundant and the CAC sticker trumps the photo seal pretty much anyway, right?

    Rick Snow, for years, has been the absolute authority on Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents. I would much rather see his photo seal sticker on the slab than CAC. I wouldn't be crazy about sending that baby through the mail, though. Perhaps you can have him take a look and sticker it at a coin show if you're interested.

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    divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations, that is one awesome Flying Eagle Cent.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:

    @jfriedm56 said:
    Anyway, what would be the advantage for a photo seal from Rick Snow's Eagle Eye cert, if there's already a green bean CAC sticker on the holder? It seems redundant and the CAC sticker trumps the photo seal pretty much anyway, right?

    Rick Snow, for years, has been the absolute authority on Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents. I would much rather see his photo seal sticker on the slab than CAC. I wouldn't be crazy about sending that baby through the mail, though. Perhaps you can have him take a look and sticker it at a coin show if you're interested.

    @DCW said:

    @jfriedm56 said:
    Anyway, what would be the advantage for a photo seal from Rick Snow's Eagle Eye cert, if there's already a green bean CAC sticker on the holder? It seems redundant and the CAC sticker trumps the photo seal pretty much anyway, right?

    Rick Snow, for years, has been the absolute authority on Flying Eagle and Indian Head cents. I would much rather see his photo seal sticker on the slab than CAC. I wouldn't be crazy about sending that baby through the mail, though. Perhaps you can have him take a look and sticker it at a coin show if you're interested.

    Sorry for the double. Thanks for your comments. I think it’s going to stay as is for now as I have no plans to flip or sell. I’m still shaking my head and wondering how I ever even have this special coin in my possession! Maybe down the road, I will have it looked at by Rick Snow.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Next, you should see what variety you have. Rick has assigned "S numbers." I forget which one it is, but one is classified as a business strike. Handed out to Congressmen as a sort of pattern for the eventual flying eagle cents of 1857.

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Next, you should see what variety you have. Rick has assigned "S numbers." I forget which one it is, but one is classified as a business strike. Handed out to Congressmen as a sort of pattern for the eventual flying eagle cents of 1857.

    Thanks, and I’ve been looking for a reference to those 6 varieties but haven’t found one yet. Can anyone help identify my variety or point me in the right direction? Any and all help is appreciated.

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    FrankHFrankH Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now you can pop this out of your album. ;):D

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FrankH said:
    Now you can pop this out of your album. ;):D

    That’s Funny!

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice pick up. 👍🏼



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    yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2022 2:08PM

    Nice coin!

    Snow varieties are addicting.

    You have a nice start for sure.

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    winestevenwinesteven Posts: 5,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2022 1:47AM

    @jfriedm56 said:
    Anyway, what would be the advantage for a photo seal from Rick Snow's Eagle Eye cert, if there's already a green bean CAC sticker on the holder? It seems redundant and the CAC sticker trumps the photo seal pretty much anyway, right?

    First of all, congratulations on obtaining a coin with super eye appeal.

    Yes, having both stickers on a coin is indeed a LOT of redundancy. And yes, “the market” recognizes greater value in the CAC sticker than in the Eagle Eye Photo Seal. BUT with that said, understand that while CAC and Rick each has the goal of identifying coins that are solid for the grade (they fully agree with each other that there are a lot of coins NOT solid for the grade), they each subjectively assign different “weights” than each other for the various factors that determine a coins grade, such as surface marks, strike quality, luster, die state, amount of carbon/flecks permitted for a grade, etc.

    I too collect Flying Eagles and Indian Head Cents. I’ve found that a VERY large part of the time they will each sticker the same coin. But in searching for coins for my collection, I’ve sometimes found coins with a CAC sticker that Rick will not sticker, and coins with a Photo Seal that CAC will not sticker. Having BOTH stickers on a coin is having the BEST of BOTH WORLDS!

    While I believe Rick will let you know at a show when he sees your coin if it will Photo Seal, he will NOT do it there. With your permission, he will take it back to his shop, apply the Eagle Eye Photo Seal, take three photos of your coin (Slab Obverse, close up obverse, and close up reverse) for his website that all can access by plugging in the cert #, like a True View (and you can easily upload each photo too), and then prepare the plasticized card for you showing the obverse slab photo with BOTH stickers. He does all of this for just $15. And if your coin does NOT Photo Seal? No charge. Obviously, you pay for shipping.

    Here’s a hotlink to Rick’s Photo Seal Search page showing his three photos of my latest upgrade sent to him with a CAC. As you can see, he applied his Photo Seal to this lovely coin:

    https://www.indiancent.com/photoseal/?ps_query=07995959&submit_query=Lookup

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    jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven, thank you for kind words and advice. I do understand that both CAC and Photo seal stickers have value. I now agree with you that having Rick Snow in addition to green bean adds different, but added value. Thank you for the invite to your exhibit but attending large shows is pretty much out for me. By the way, I do own a photo seal of an 1857 flying eagle S-16 variety

    JZ

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    psuman08psuman08 Posts: 426 ✭✭✭✭

    Great addition, congrats!

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    johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jfriedm56 said:
    I was never expecting to see this coin at my local coin show that I attended yesterday. Been on my list since I started collecting Flying Eagle and Indian head cents. I am now the new owner. Photos are not the best because this coin faces up much nicer in hand. This was a once in a lifetime for me.

    Looks like I’ll need to carry a lot of cash to my first coin show next weekend lol.

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