WARNING: Old scam going again on BST

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MWallace
MWallace Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

This poster just joined yesterday 9/28/2022.

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  • dunkleosteus430
    dunkleosteus430 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I need it! Mine only has the reverse.

    I collect world proof sets, coins featuring composers, mid-20th century U.S. proof coins, U.S. type coins, and whatever else I want.

  • CommemDude
    CommemDude Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got the same message, he went thru the WTB posts and sent this to everyone; I assume he is trying to assemble a list of emails of collectors to sell , or for some other nefarious reason

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • dsessom
    dsessom Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not very original, are they? korderfreeman? (Quarter free, man)

    Must be related to Saul Goodman. :D

    Best regards,
    Dwayne F. Sessom
    Ebay ID: V-Nickel-Coins
    My V Nickel Registry Set - https://pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset/71874
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  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Don't need it. I have plenty of obverses.

  • Glen2022
    Glen2022 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭
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    @messydesk said:
    Don't need it. I have plenty of obverses.

    If you only have the obverse of a cent, is that a half-cent?

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, I do not know if it is a scam, or an inexperienced entrepreneur. However, I do not reply to unsolicited sales emails. Cheers, RickO

  • lilolme
    lilolme Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It would be a little bit of fun to have a wanted for a coin that simply does not exist, made up. Then getting the notice that someone has exactly what you want. :)
    Oh, just a hypothetical and not suggesting as to much trouble.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=OwZlYz2V4AM Sophie Lloyd, guitar shred cover Paranoid (Black Sabbath)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbEW8BrNctI Haley Reinhart, Don't Know How To Love You Live (direct to record)

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • MWallace
    MWallace Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @ricko said:
    Well, I do not know if it is a scam, or an inexperienced entrepreneur. However, I do not reply to unsolicited sales emails. Cheers, RickO

    This exact type of offer has been posted on the BST in the past and discussed here. I don't remember the details but the consensus was it was a scam. Send a message to the email and lets see what happens. I'm not sending one.

    I failed to mention in the 1st post that several weeks ago I did post a WTB on BST for a 2022 Quarter slabbed with the obverse (Washington side) in the front of the slab.

  • Glen2022
    Glen2022 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭
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    @lilolme said:
    It would be a little bit of fun to have a wanted for a coin that simply does not exist, made up. Then getting the notice that someone has exactly what you want. :)
    Oh, just a hypothetical and not suggesting as to much trouble.

    Or maybe a 1913 liberty nickel or a 1933 $20 Saint? That would give him a lot to shoot for.

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I also got solicited for a copy stand from @davebe . Same email address... Maybe he's legit or maybe he's just trying to collect valid email addresses... I posted a WTB for a copy stand in the BST, but that was a couple of months ago...

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Don't need it. I have plenty of obverses.> @Glen2022 said:

    @messydesk said:
    Don't need it. I have plenty of obverses.

    If you only have the obverse of a cent, is that a half-cent?

    If you only have the obverse of a quarter, is it real? (Apologies for dark side pun.)

  • Cladiator
    Cladiator Posts: 18,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Got this via PM from @davebe, I posted a WTB thread a while back about 65 double eagles.

    "korder has 1865S $20 Double Eagles for sale in good condition Here’s his email korderfreeman@gmail.com"

  • cccoins
    cccoins Posts: 302 ✭✭✭✭
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    I received this from Daveb:

    korder has Casino Chips for sale in good condition Here’s his email korderfreeman@gmail.com

  • Crypto
    Crypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:
    Buying from a new member is not a problem if you require them to send it for inspection before payment is made.

    Depending on value and report, anyone who send goods before payment in business is a fool. If you're not in the position to demand otherwise you're not in the correct venue for your sales.

  • Herb_T
    Herb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2022 11:55AM
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    Hmmm

  • Herb_T
    Herb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2022 11:56AM
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    Hmm

  • Glen2022
    Glen2022 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭
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    If he is legitimate, which I doubt, he certainly has an extensive collection of coins.

  • alaura22
    alaura22 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I received the email to, I believe he's going to the BST and looking for people looking for certain coins
    Can we bust him/her?

  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2022 12:04PM
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    I wish I would have seen this, just got responded to on a gold proof box I been needing, So I had to put a few funds in paypal (iI dont use it any longer) to send to him, I wouldnt do F & F becuase of IRS business requirements, but sent a few dollars extra. He refunded me and wanted me to use cash app, zelle which I said forget it. Now I see its some kind of scam, luckily, just lost a few dollars payment processing thru PP only.

    I am usually careful about this type stuff, but being a forum member who informed me of the guy, I assumed it was legit.

    davebe =forum id

  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Crypto said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Buying from a new member is not a problem if you require them to send it for inspection before payment is made.

    Depending on value and report, anyone who send goods before payment in business is a fool. If you're not in the position to demand otherwise you're not in the correct venue for your sales.

    If you are a dealer, you don't pay for a coin that some stranger wants to sell to you until you have the coin in your hand.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Swampboy
    Swampboy Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I hope everyone here reads the warnings on their bleach bottles too

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

  • Crypto
    Crypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @PerryHall said:

    @Crypto said:

    @PerryHall said:
    Buying from a new member is not a problem if you require them to send it for inspection before payment is made.

    Depending on value and report, anyone who send goods before payment in business is a fool. If you're not in the position to demand otherwise you're not in the correct venue for your sales.

    If you are a dealer, you don't pay for a coin that some stranger wants to sell to you until you have the coin in your hand.

    youre right of course. Stranger being the variable

  • Glen2022
    Glen2022 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭
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    My wife got ripped off by a scam claiming there was an unauthorized purchase on amazon and she needed to send $ fast to get the purchase reversed. Had to do it right now Had to use Zelle. All red flags. Apparently you have absolutely no recourse with Zelle. Once it has been sent it is gone. Luckily, she dd not loose a significant amount of $ bit she did have to close out the bank account and linked CC. A real pain.

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2022 12:42PM
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    Some great deals available, must load a Green Dot card with cash for the very best prices!! Vinny and Corky are sitting by waiting for your verification so you can get your share of the bonanza!!! Work from home, everyone is making money hand over fist if they have internet access and know how to work a keyboard! They are even paying over a thousand dollars a day for gaming pros!

  • Project Numismatics
    Project Numismatics Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2022 1:28PM
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    @Glen2022 said:
    My wife got ripped off by a scam claiming there was an unauthorized purchase on amazon and she needed to send $ fast to get the purchase reversed. Had to do it right now Had to use Zelle. All red flags. Apparently you have absolutely no recourse with Zelle. Once it has been sent it is gone. Luckily, she dd not loose a significant amount of $ bit she did have to close out the bank account and linked CC. A real pain.

    There was a recent hearing in Congress with bank CEOs on the issues with Zelle. You are correct, there is no recourse. Zelle is owned by the banks and is their competitor to PayPal, etc.

    See: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-22/zelle-emerges-as-lawmakers-surprise-villain-at-bank-hearings

  • Fraz
    Fraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @jdimmick said:
    I wish I would have seen this, just got respo

    I am usually careful about this type stuff, but being a forum member who informed me of the guy, I assumed it was legit.

    Ditto. No response from anyone, though. I’ll let you know when he replies. I posted a WTB for unslabbed semi-key cents.

  • MWallace
    MWallace Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No matter what it is someone wants to buy, korderfreeman@gmail.com has it for sale.

  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I didn't respond, but I find it interesting that this person wants to use Zelle... I thought you had to give up bank account info for that so you really need to know... and trust... the other party to use it.

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,072 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @lkenefic said:
    I didn't respond, but I find it interesting that this person wants to use Zelle... I thought you had to give up bank account info for that so you really need to know... and trust... the other party to use it.

    You don't give up bank account information.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • oih82w8
    oih82w8 Posts: 13,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 29, 2022 4:26PM
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    "korder has 1853-O Seated Liberty overstrike dollars for sale in good condition Here’s his email korderfreeman@gmail.com"

    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

    BST transactions: dbldie55, jayPem, 78saen, UltraHighRelief, nibanny, liefgold, FallGuy, lkeigwin, mbogoman, Sandman70gt, keets, joeykoins, ianrussell (@GC), EagleEye, ThePennyLady, GRANDAM, Ilikecolor, Gluggo, okiedude, Voyageur, LJenkins11, fastfreddie, ms70, pursuitofliberty, ZoidMeister,Coin Finder, GotTheBug, edwardjulio, Coinnmore, Nickpatton, Namvet69,...
  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's only a scam if you fall for it.............

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • horseyride
    horseyride Posts: 232 ✭✭✭
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    A few months ago it was a different email. You get ghosted if you ask for an image of the coin from the supposed friend. Scam

  • Herb_T
    Herb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I have been exchanging emails with Korder and he gave me an address to have a friend come and pick the coins up as well as pay. I told him my friend was a local police officer and that didn’t shake him. Anyone in Lafayette, La? That is the address he gave me….anyone?

  • lilolme
    lilolme Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MWallace said:

    @Steven59 said:
    It's only a scam if you fall for it.............

    How about "alleged attempted scam"? :D

    AAS
    Looks like they need to get that one added to their acronym list.

    https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/AAS

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=OwZlYz2V4AM Sophie Lloyd, guitar shred cover Paranoid (Black Sabbath)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbEW8BrNctI Haley Reinhart, Don't Know How To Love You Live (direct to record)

    RLJ 1958 - 2023

  • jdimmick
    jdimmick Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This guy keeps trying to contact me after the incident earlier. I told him I read about thier "attempted potential scams on here" but if they had the box I wanted, and want to mail it to me, Id send him back cash asap"overnight in fact. No answer

  • derryb
    derryb Posts: 38,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    sounds like everyone should load up the inbox for korderfreeman@gmail.com.

    Just sent him six spams.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

  • CoffeeTime
    CoffeeTime Posts: 142 ✭✭✭
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    @jdimmick Just don’t communicate with them. They will waste your time trying. Besides, you are likely talking to a bot

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dell Loy Hansen might be able to score with this dude.

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