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Ebay, I told you so!

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    JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everybody wants to be a dealer.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Awesome man! Can you give a more specific example though? Just one where you purchased a coin for x and sold it for y? Those graphs are quite impressive though.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    I'm very jealous though. Why can't i have a world class eye. :-(

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    You with world class eyes like this man obviously has, I'm jealous of you all. You're so lucky. I just have regular eyes.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Right on jmlanzaf. You tell'em. <3

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Can you guys show examples though? Props to you. Just show one example where you bought something for x and sold it for y. Thanks.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Not being smart here, eager to learn!

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Seriously, just show where you bought something for x, sold it for y on ebay and show the fees involved. Not knockin ya. It's a tough way to go usually. Show what ya did. Give an example and brag on yourself! Not trying to insult you at all. Show us all how you made out! One example.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Huh...
    My ebay spending over the last 6 months is really close to yours, if I divide yours by 50 or 100... :smile:

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Awesome dude. Sounds like you're doin great. Nothing wrong with buying a big collection and breaking it up. That's definitely work. I get that. People selling a coin they bought for a hundred bucks 20 years ago for $120 and then getting sunk with fees that make them lose money on the deal is what ebay does that hurts folks. No issue with capitalism at all.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2022 5:30PM

    @bennybravo said:
    People selling a coin they bought for a hundred bucks 20 years ago for $120 and then getting sunk with fees that make them lose money on the deal is what ebay does that hurts folks.

    What eBay does is provide a place for people to offer stuff for sale. They don't force people to sell stuff that they'll lose money on.

    There are currently over 1 million items for sale in the US Coins section on eBay. Do you suppose there'd be that many if everybody was losing money?

    edited to add... As far as someone selling a coin they bought for a hundred bucks 20 years ago for $120 and then getting sunk with fees that make them lose money on the deal, they also have the option of selling that coin to the local B&M. Who will wholesale it out to somebody else who'll sell it to someone who ends up selling it on eBay for a profit. Which option do you think will generate the most money for the original owner?

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Wow cap'n obvious. You mean you can sell stuff on eBay? No, they don't force anyone to sell anything. The reason they're a shell of what they once were is because of fees. Gee, thanks for telling folks they can sell stuff on eBay. Sheesh.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:
    Wow cap'n obvious. You mean you can sell stuff on eBay? No, they don't force anyone to sell anything. The reason they're a shell of what they once were is because of fees. Gee, thanks for telling folks they can sell stuff on eBay. Sheesh.

    Benny, you seem to have a bee in your bonnet. Look at your last few posts, and dial it down a notch, eh?
    Just sayin'...

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    hey moursund, no bees here. Not sure whatcha mean there. Hope you're having a pleasant day. :-)

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:
    No, they don't force anyone to sell anything.

    Then we're agreed. eBay doesn't make people lose money. But previously, you said they did...

    @bennybravo said:
    People selling a coin they bought for a hundred bucks 20 years ago for $120 and then getting sunk with fees that make them lose money on the deal is what ebay does that hurts folks.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Agreed. Nobody us forced to use eBay and pay their high fees. I think we can all agree they take a bigger bite than they should.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭
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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:
    I think we can all agree they take a bigger bite than they should.

    You're free to think whatever you like. :)

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2022 4:45AM

    I don't know guys...Ebay is still #1 for me.

    The BST here does have many advantages (such as a greater degree of piece of mind and security and ease of transaction) but monetary value it is not.

    My experience on numerous sales has been Ebay results in higher prices.

    My most recent sale of two Morgansof which I posted last year here on the BST at a total of $550 us ($690.00 Canadian) consisted of a raw 1895-o and 1884-s Morgan, very recently sold on Ebay for $650 and $330 Canadian (respectively).

    I didn't get one bite here.

    Probably it's because they weren't graded.

    But I've been on Ebay since 1998 and it's the best place for me still (even with ever increasing costs).

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    By the way, Where did I ever say people are forced to lose money chief? Would love to see that quote of something I didn't say.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if BST is conducive to trades... for example, what are the odds that, if I have a nice stack of PCGS higher-grade mercs, and want to trade for a slabbed key-date morgan, is that something that would get any bites?

    If a guy has some coins of moderate value, and wants to have instead some other coin or coins of near the same value... what is the best way to accomplish that? Seems to me, selling one set, and then buying the other, means you pay somebody's profit margin twice. I don't mind paying once. :smile:

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:
    By the way, Where did I ever say people are forced to lose money chief? Would love to see that quote of something I didn't say.

    Right here, boss.

    "People selling a coin they bought for a hundred bucks 20 years ago for $120 and then getting sunk with fees that make them lose money on the deal is what ebay does that hurts folks."

    eBay doesn't make (force) anybody to do anything.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Thank you MasonG. I appreciate that you requoted me and saw that no force was implied. Apology accepted boss. ;-)

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Saying eBay makes someone do something is the same as saying eBay forces someone do something.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Agreed, lets get on whoevever said ebay "makes" someone do something. Show that quote and we'll go after them. Can you post that quote for me please? Just wanna make sure you aren't puttin words in folk's mouths to fit some agenda. Thanks.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Ebay has changed retail by enabling tens of thousands of everyday folks to open their own businesses.

    And yet, some people are apparently unable to figure out how to make it work. Makes them cranky, it does. :)

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:
    Agreed, lets get on whoevever said ebay "makes" someone do something. Show that quote and we'll go after them. Can you post that quote for me please?

    ??? You wrote it.

    @bennybravo said:
    People selling a coin they bought for a hundred bucks 20 years ago for $120 and then getting sunk with fees that make them lose money on the deal is what ebay does that hurts folks.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Still waiting Mason. Show that quote so we can get on them!

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @moursund said:
    I wonder if BST is conducive to trades... for example, what are the odds that, if I have a nice stack of PCGS higher-grade mercs, and want to trade for a slabbed key-date morgan, is that something that would get any bites?

    If a guy has some coins of moderate value, and wants to have instead some other coin or coins of near the same value... what is the best way to accomplish that? Seems to me, selling one set, and then buying the other, means you pay somebody's profit margin twice. I don't mind paying once. :smile:

    Trades are very hard to accomplish. It's why money was invented in the first place. What are the odds that the person who has a dollar that you want also wants the dimes you have? You might well have to give up more in the trade than "somebody's profit margin twice. "

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    Good point. Would you figure that it would be to my advantage to sell my items on the BST, or take them into a LCS? I guess what I'm asking is, would a dealer here on the forum likely pay more than LCS for my PCGS slabbed coins.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I showed it. I can't make you read it.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Exactly. You can't quote it because it wasn't said. Thank you MasonG. Please check out MasonG's auctions, can you please post a link?

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MasonG said:
    I showed it. I can't make you read it.

    I think you're arguing over the meaning of the phrase "make them".

    Make somebody do something = Force somebody to do something.

    Not much to argue over there.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:

    @bennybravo said:
    I think we can all agree they take a bigger bite than they should.

    You're free to think whatever you like. :)

    Although Mr Benny may think EBay charges for that as well

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Lol. Still no quote.

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Synonyms for make:
    blackjack, coerce, compel, constrain, dragoon, drive, force, impel, impress, muscle, obligate, oblige, press, pressure, sandbag

    Synonyms for force:
    blackjack, coerce, compel, constrain, dragoon, drive, impel, impress, make, muscle, obligate, oblige, press, pressure, sandbag

    I'm sure this will be confusing for some, but there's nothing I can do about that.

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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    MrBenny doesn't think eBay charges for anything above and beyond. Holy crap, Justacommeman, what the heck are you even talking about? Sorry for posting an opinion. Sheesh. Anyone else want to pile on?

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MasonG said:
    Synonyms for make:
    blackjack, coerce, compel, constrain, dragoon, drive, force, impel, impress, muscle, obligate, oblige, press, pressure, sandbag

    Synonyms for force:
    blackjack, coerce, compel, constrain, dragoon, drive, impel, impress, make, muscle, obligate, oblige, press, pressure, sandbag

    I'm sure this will be confusing for some, but there's nothing I can do about that.

    This conversation makes me feel not so bad about my silly jokes.... 😉

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m with you Benny boy👍👍

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭

    Thanks you crazyhounddog you. :)

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:
    Thanks you crazyhounddog you. :)

    😊

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 14, 2022 7:15PM

    @bennybravo

    Fine, here's one. Haven't sold it yet, but when I do, I'll make a few bags. Wasn't even in my top 3 buys of the year last year.

    "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

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