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BigJohnDBigJohnD Posts: 337 ✭✭✭
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One of my favorite coins, purchased from forum member stone many moons ago. Loved the clashing, color and bleeding of the obverse into the rims. I have strange likes I guess, let me know what you think and I'll let you know what our hosts think tomorrow evening. Thanks!!

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many clashes and off center clashes at that. I will guess AU55. Beautiful coin :smiley:

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There’s certainly a lot going on with that coin!
    Stone is a great guy. Haven’t seen him in a while.
    I agree with AU 55.

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2021 7:55PM

    I’m going with AU 50 the field on obverse infront of the nose The ear. The wear on cap but wow for the activity above the date!! Really nice. I must contemplate some more 🤔
    It’s really calling to me. Like I want to behold it just because 😉 it’s cool 😎

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 here!

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 and nice.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,349 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree... 55 and gorgeous!

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is an interesting coin with a lot going on. I actually like it. For grade, it looks nice with plenty of luster but not MS. I will guess the grade at AU55. Overall a nice keeper coin, I really like that strong clashing on the obverse.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 to me as well

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    scotty4449scotty4449 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very cool coin! I have not seen clashing so pronounced before. My guess is 58.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    There’s certainly a lot going on with that coin!
    Stone is a great guy. Haven’t seen him in a while.
    I agree with AU 55.

    Stone got banned many years ago, unfortunately. He wrote a book and maintains a numismatic website, if I'm not mistaken.

    As to the coin, I'll award it a 62.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will guess AU53.... Interesting coin with the clashes etc. Cheers, RickO

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    No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Very nice!
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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    There’s certainly a lot going on with that coin!
    Stone is a great guy. Haven’t seen him in a while.
    I agree with AU 55.

    Stone got banned many years ago, unfortunately. He wrote a book and maintains a numismatic website, if I'm not mistaken.

    As to the coin, I'll award it a 62.

    I used to run into him at shows even after the banning, but even that’s been a number of years now.

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    ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m at 55, cool example with a lot going on!

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It could just be my phone, but how is the luster in hand? The color also looks like secondary toning. Cleaned and retoned? I’ll guess AU details cleaned shot AU55.

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a great looking Capped Bust!

    1813 O-110 with great color and clashing, I'm going to guess PCGS graded her as a 55


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    fathomfathom Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Softly struck because of the die state. Especially obverse.

    Amazing clashing.

    Reverse looks MS, cannot get a read on luster, love the color.

    63

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 7,173 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought was 62

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    beautiful! very interesting die clash. put me down for 58

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,933 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2021 8:39AM

    Really cool coin, even without the toning. Man, how many times did they clash these poor dies?

    Looks high AU to me, likely bumped up for gorgeous eye appeal and for just being so darn cool. The rims are a little rough. Say AU55/58, but I could be way off. The toning is making it hard to evaluate the surfaces for me.

    This is a coin I’d buy even if I didn’t “need” it for a set.

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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Crazy coin....I dig it. I'm gonna guess 58, just because I think I see some high point rub? Neat piece for sure....lovely color.

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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2021 10:39AM

    110 and extreme in its spectacularness! 🤯
    I'm seeing it as a 62 or 63, although this a classic late state that often gets undergraded... so probably 58.

    Even this VF 30 is probably under graded..

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    cjdilegocjdilego Posts: 32 ✭✭✭

    Wow, I love the toning and have similar tastes in a lot of mine. I will say AU-58 hopefully, strong coin.

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    drddmdrddm Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Soley by the wear, I’m gonna say between AU50 and 53, but if I had to choose one, I’ll go with 50!

    Excellent eye appeal though!

    Dave

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    USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll wager 58 and this coin is superior in everyway IMO.

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin AU50 for me 👍🏼👍👍🏼



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    jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What the heck, 58! Love the look of that coin

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53

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    BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭

    Market graded 63 if the luster is full.

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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about a "coins I bought from Stone" thread while we wait for the grade?
    I have a few good ones kickin around..👍

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    hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55 or 58.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wowzer clashes. Very cool. I feel AU53 for the GTG. Nice coin.
    Jim


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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, I love it.

    I will go with 58

    Personally I'd give it a +, and a bean!

    Always a memorable gtg thread when you have such a variety of wags from 50 thru MS63

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    drddmdrddm Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So what’s the grade? 🤔

    Dave

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    CopperLadCopperLad Posts: 57 ✭✭

    I see a MS63
    Old fifty cent coins are beautiful and hard to grade. Soft strikes are usually my undoing.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,672 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2021 4:03PM

    My immediate thought was (definitely) AU-something. But after looking at the images a bit longer and seeing all of the AU58 grade guesses, I’m going with MS63+.

    Edited to add: I wrote what I did about the AU58 grade guesses because I feel that for problem-free coins, grade guesses generally tend to be on the conservative side. I think that’s because posters would rather chance guessing too low than too high - doing so can give the impression of being more knowledgeable. And if so many posters can get to AU58 so easily, I think professional graders might see the coin as approximately MS63. After all of that overthinking, watch the coin grade lower than (even) AU55!😬

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess we'll never know 😂

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Best not to look at other's opinions or you are following the pack mentality! I have found my 1st gut instinct is usually more accurate than if I study the coin closely and read other's opinions.

    @MFeld said:
    My immediate thought was (definitely) AU-something. But after looking at the images a bit longer and seeing all of the AU58 grade guesses, I’m going with MS63+.

    Edited to add: I wrote what I did about the AU58 grade guesses because I feel that for problem-free coins, grade guesses generally tend to be on the conservative side. I think that’s because posters would rather chance guessing too low than too high - doing so can give the impression of being more knowledgeable. And if so many posters can get to AU58 so easily, I think professional graders might see the coin as approximately MS63. After all of that overthinking, watch the coin grade lower than (even) AU55!😬

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    Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BigJohnD - when is the big reveal??

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m dyin’ here

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Best not to look at other's opinions or you are following the pack mentality! I have found my 1st gut instinct is usually more accurate than if I study the coin closely and read other's opinions.

    @MFeld said:
    My immediate thought was (definitely) AU-something. But after looking at the images a bit longer and seeing all of the AU58 grade guesses, I’m going with MS63+.

    Edited to add: I wrote what I did about the AU58 grade guesses because I feel that for problem-free coins, grade guesses generally tend to be on the conservative side. I think that’s because posters would rather chance guessing too low than too high - doing so can give the impression of being more knowledgeable. And if so many posters can get to AU58 so easily, I think professional graders might see the coin as approximately MS63. After all of that overthinking, watch the coin grade lower than (even) AU55!😬

    If I’d followed the “pack mentality” I would have guessed AU58, not 63+.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess this one gets forum graded☆
    Forum says...57+

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the spirit of not looking too smart I’ll go 65+.
    For the record I’m just dying to say 66+
    What a beautiful piece!

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    MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 380 ✭✭✭

    My guess is 64+

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The cat just died.

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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I grade it PCGS PURDY ;)

    GrandAm :)

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