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STOLEN! 1872-CC $5 XF45 NGC CAC & 1943 1C MS68 NGC CAC
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STOLEN! Please keep an eye out! Very rare.
1872-CC $5 XF45 NGC CAC - cert#5970811-006
1943 1C MS68 NGC CAC - cert#6252622-001
Item was double boxed and sealed shipped via usps express from NV. No identifying marks were used. Package was pilfered whilst in transit before reaching the recipient. Theft likely occurred somewhere between NV-CA. There is an ongoing investigation. Please keep an eye out.
police case has been created, ngc, pcgs and ncic all have been informed and recorded.
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That sucks! Hope they turn up at some point.
It might have been punctured in a machine and the coins subsequently fell out?
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The 1872-CC $5 should be easy to spot even if it is removed from the slab due to your excellent photos. It is a coin that will attract interest.
Excellent photography like is so important in cases like this.
That really looks like machine damage to the box.
Sorry to hear that. Hope it was adequately insured.
Two coins probably fell out just like this from one of my packages and the post office could not trace it, so they reimbursed me.
Good luck.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
What type of machine would USPS possibly have that would punch a hole like this?
Straight edge horizontal cut followed by a vertical tear line....it's been stolen.
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I am always saddened when theft occurs.
Your pictures are amazing and identify the 1872 CC coin as a "one" of a kind because of the details shown. The markings should aid in its recovery.
I hope that the '43 steely is found and returned. From its pictures, I do not see any identifiable markings.
Wayne
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Sorry for the loss and hoping 1. You get the coins back. or 2. You get total reimbursement. Good luck.
Wow, thats horrible! Hoping they are recovered!
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Damn, expertly taped and everything.
I wonder if these postal thieves have a way to tell when there's gold in a package... like one of those prospecting metal detectors or similar.
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That 1872-CC $5 Liberty is stunning for its grade. Great images!! Hope she’s back in your hands asap!!!
I had several half dollars stolen in the mail probably in Las Vegas. Never recovered.
Sorry to hear it.
Looks like machine damage to be honest. Too sloppy to be a discrete theft, but who knows.
I hope this type of shipping provides adequate insurance. I believe that registered would have.
Mechanical damage
A forklift.
Man that 72cc is a tough coin, sucks no matter how it happened
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I trust only Registered Mail. The thieves know how to make it look like mechanical damage.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
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Trippin' boo!
This was a surgical strike not some blunt accident. At any rate, whatever the reason hope he gets his coins or money and may the person(s) responsible be struck down and have their ruins smote upon a pile of silver and gold!
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Surgical strike? Who was the surgeon? Maybe the guy who tore out a victim's beating heart during a human sacrifice in "Indiana Jones".
Damn didn't consider him but now I think he's in on it
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Not only did you lose but so did the collecting community.
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I hate to hear about that. I hope it works out well. If they were stolen, I hope the thief enjoys the hospitality of the federal prison system.
Hate seeing this. So sorry for all involved.
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I always put labels on my shipments “fragile, please handle with care”
Idk if machine damage or if they did some surgery. Hope was insured.
I wonder also. You wouldn't think a thief just randomly break open boxes.
That type of shipment needs priority registered mail.
True - Express only means FAST -
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Registered mail, insured for the value of the contents. Takes longer to get there but there are sign offs as it goes.
Op said double boxed, machine damage and fall out didnt happen here, it was stolen no doubt
Looks like damage from a machine to me. PO must check with their claims dept.
Why would anyone trust the USPS these days to deliver coins with that much value??? I just dont get it.
Do you think anyone who works at the Post Office isn't watched? I used to work there and I know they are closely watched. I've been mailing and receiving packages thru the USPS for 50 years and have only had one go missing, and that was 25 years ago.
any info on the shipping label that would have attracted the thief's attention?
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That’s 17k worth coins lost. Hope u have insurance. Something like that I would sell at a show from my table or to special investor customer appointment only.
Even shipping $500 coins makes me nervous. So big ticket material I prefer sell at show from my table cash n carry. I do take slabbed material as trade in at around 20pct back of CDN bid (if need for inventory). Been thru hassle of USPS insurance filing no desire repeat.
We are in tough times, people are going hungry, homeless while the rich get richer - a super expensive package like that is a prime target.
While not the case here, with respect to the option of registered mail, what do you think is safer?
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Nothing is safer than registered mail. When the Hope Diamond was sent to the Smithsonian Institution, a feasibility study was performed to determine the safest way to send it. It was determined that registered mail was the way to go and that's what was used. Just make sure that's it's fully insured.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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That is terrible. Major damage to the package, may have been done to conceal an obvious theft. That being said, I wonder how they knew there was valuable items inside? Does the Post Office have X-ray like TSA? I have always used Registered Mail when shipping high value items. Cheers, RickO
Threat or theft? Agree that it doesn't look like the type of package that a rare coin would be shipped in. Does the box have a label that would indicate the insured value of the package?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
@PerryHall.... Thanks, I edited it....Mind was thinking something else while fingers were typing.
Cheers, RickO
Driver Wanted ?
It will turn up. Right ? !
Regarding the 1943 cent:
It may be the key in recovering both coins. It is a coin that, unlike the 1872-CC $5, will lose all its value if cracked out. As a raw coin it is just another common date Unc. steel cent. Because of that, the thief will likely leave it in the holder. Make sure you provide full information on the 1943 cent to everyone you contact and emphasize the slab number. If a dealer spots this coin coming in the chances are the seller will know where the 1872-CC $5 is as well (he may well be trying to sell it at the same time.)
Why wasn't a package of this value sent via registered mail?
You are assuming that the thief is knowledgeable about coins.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
It is a possibility that the thief knows about coins but by no means a certainty. If he/she does know about coins they will be unlikely to crack out the 1943 Steel Cent.
I obviously don't know in this case but I've gotten higher value coins sent express from companies that I would think carry their own insurance. Maybe the theory is the faster it's out of the shipper's hands the better.
One on one meeting. If too old, worried about covid or whatever, have a trusted partner meet with buyer via car or plane. The costs would be a sliver VS value.
Dropping off coins in a box to todays post office is a risk, especially coins worth 5 figures.
I suspect you are thinking of the DeYoung Red Diamond which they sent by mail.
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The Hope diamond was shipped by Registered Mail.
I hadn't heard that but they must have just copied what they did for the red diamond which they didn't even use insurance so not to draw attention to it.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set