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Franklin lamination
gumby1234
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Any idea what this may be worth?
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Nice to have a lamination on a large silver coin.
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Looks like a strike thru a piece of wood 2 me. Peace Roy
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you can see a crack going from between the T and Y all the way to the lamination. Let me try to get a better pic.
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Wow dude, what an AWESOME find!
I'm jealous. Lol
Very unusual on a Franklin.
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Are you going to get it graded?
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Someone educate me. How does a coin that is made up of an alloy (silver and copper) delaminate? I can understand clad coins that have layers of material delaminating (layers separate) but how does a 90% silver, 10% copper coin (alloy of two materials) delaminate?
@WAYNEAS i don't think its worth grading
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Poor mixing
Thanks.
That's what I was thinking but it seems it would have to be piss pour mixing to end up delaminating.
During the preparation of the planchet strip, foreign materials — grease, dirt, oil, slag or gas — may become trapped just below the surface of the metal. Coins struck from this strip later may begin to flake and peel since adhesion is poor in the location of the trapped material
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Is there much of a market for such errors? To me it is a melt bucket coin but there may be others out there who will actually pay a premium over melt for it.
Delamination isn't peeling of different layers. Bronze coins do it. Nickel coins do it. It's stress related from the rolling of heterogeneous compositions either due to poor alloy mixing or inclusion of impurities or the like.
To me, it appears to be less common in silver coins but it is very common in Wheat cents and nickels, especially war nickels.
Yes, there's always a market for significant errors on Franklin Halves. Probably not worth a huge amount but but should certainly be worth a premium.
I thought this thread was about Franklin lamentation...
Today in History: Franklin’s Lamentation
BY ARGUS · 26 JANUARY 2015
BenFranklin_800In a letter to his daughter 231 years ago today, Benjamin Franklin expresses unhappiness over the design of the Seal of the President of the United States. He complains that the artist of the Great Seal had tried to paint a bald eagle in the center but that the bird ended up looking much more like a turkey. He then goes on, tongue in cheek, to compare the merits of the eagle versus the turkey as our national bird, pretending to believe that the turkey would make a better national symbol.
This letter – taken out of context – led to one of the great American myths: that Ben Franklin was unhappy with the eagle as our national symbol and actually preferred the turkey.The misunderstanding was chalked up to a failure of people to understand sarcasm, but a newly discovered painting of Franklin posed mid-letter provides a more apt reason for the miscommunication, and also explains why it took him three days to write the letter.
Source: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/american-myths-benjamin-franklins-turkey-and-the-presidential-seal-6623414/?no-ist
It does look more like a strike through than delamination to me.... Should be interesting to get further input from a TPG or resident expert @FredWeinberg. Cheers, RickO
@ricko Look closely at the crack from TY over to the big part of the lamination. You can see its pushing the metal outward from the crack. Still it would be nice if any of the error experts weighed in.
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@gumby1234.... Yes, I saw that.... The marks inside the depression lead me to believe it was an impression, and that feature you mention seems it may have been an overflow of the foreign material, depressed after the retained piece fell out. Just my theory and ICBW. Cheers, RickO
Ill agree it does look like a strike through ,however my experience with Franklins is they had a lot of lamination issues. I had a roll of unc. 1963 Franklins all had lamination issues! Not as bad as this specimen, but all had peels on one or more surface areas.
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Cool, that's something one does not see every day