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Customer received an interesting letter......

Maybe I missed it on here, one of my customers told me today that they received a letter from Littleton that the US Mint will stop making the cent starting in 2023?

Has anyone heard anything about this? Is lottleton on to something or just speculating?

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    ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2021 3:01PM

    "Death of the Penny - US Mint to Cease Penny Production in 2023" https://cashmoneylife.com/us-mint-cease-penny-production/

    "News: Penny Production Will Stop in 2023: Here’s Why — Tally" https://www.meettally.com/blog/news-penny-production-will-stop-in-2023-heres-why

    "What Will Happen When the U.S. Stops Making Pennies in 2023 | Newswire" https://www.newswire.com/news/what-will-happen-when-the-u-s-stops-making-pennies-in-2023-21409166

    That said, I hadn't heard about this until now, surprised Coin week hasn't done an article about it given the numismatic significance of this change.

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    ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2021 3:07PM

    I did quick Google search and found a bunch of articles saying the penny will be phased out in late 2022. It's about time, my US small cent collection has been getting boring. Only missing a couple key date IHC and the super rare coins like 1856 FE and 1943 copper etc.

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    ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭

    It says 50,000 proof only will be minted in 2023 and auctioned off to collectors starting at $179. With that mintage it's a key date for sure

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ndeagles said:
    It says 50,000 proof only will be minted in 2023 and auctioned off to collectors starting at $179. With that mintage it's a key date for sure

    And if they are all zincolns then they’ll rot away eventually. Maybe they will do them in bronze as a tribute like the 2009 series?

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Think I’ll pass as $179 for a zinc coin we know will degrade just is not a good thing. I’ll look for a last issue from the past

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Entirely stop making or merely pause production for a few years? There are plenty of instances where production years have been skipped throughout numismatic history.

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Apparently stop 🛑

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    Entirely stop making or merely pause production for a few years? There are plenty of instances where production years have been skipped throughout numismatic history.

    The have been talking about this for years, it costs 2.5 cents to make each penny. This is the end following the example of Canada and England. Even when I was studying abroad in Spain in 2005/2006 they had the 1 and 2 cent pieces but many vendors rounded to 5 or 10 cents.

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    ndeaglesndeagles Posts: 355 ✭✭✭✭

    I just made a dansco with blank pages to get my penny collection through 2045 last year too....

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dunno if it’s true because look at the date on the first article that was linked above🤔

    Mr_Spud

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    About time

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    SiriusBlackSiriusBlack Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The earliest mention I can find on google for that is from an article on April 1st. The announced date to discontinue is also mentioned as April 1st.

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    COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen it if I do a Google search info about it but what I'm surprised about is I didn't really see it on an credible websites? Or ones I've heard of yet?

    No not opening a political thing so please don't anyone else but you would think fox News, CNN, msmbc, or one of them would have reported something by now. Or shoot maybe even the us mint

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    JBKJBK Posts: 15,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2021 3:27PM

    Hmmmm. April 1st. Doesn't that ring a bell with anyone? :#

    Another hint: read the entire article and there is a statement at the very end. :*

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,080 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No mainstream news outlet is reporting it. There is no press release or other statement on the Mint’s website. It sounds like some thing made up to sell worthless modern coins.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is in the law that they must make them

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, if I got suckered then I’m happy to have a good laugh at it. :) I’d rather be fooled this way than on something else…

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fiat always fails.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2021 3:48PM

    .

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

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    fathomfathom Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    G-d I hope so.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, it was a happy thought while it lasted.

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    should stop making pennies, start making thruppence. those would only cost about thruppence to make...

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, it WOULD be a great idea! We could also use bi-metallic $2.50 and $5 coins, too.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2021 5:05PM

    .......................

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Funny. :D

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:
    Funny. :D

    What is funny is the people who would hear about the penny going away, and start hoarding thousands and thousands of zinc pennies because they will become valuable...

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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Less hits when you metal detect 😂

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @moursund said:

    @coinbuf said:
    Funny. :D

    What is funny is the people who would hear about the penny going away, and start hoarding thousands and thousands of zinc pennies because they will become valuable...

    :D Ridiculously funny :D

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That would be funny if Littleton got had by an April Fool's article.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure would!

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    CopperWireCopperWire Posts: 492 ✭✭✭

    @ndeagles said:

    The have been talking about this for years, it costs 2.5 cents to make each penny. This is the end following the example of Canada and England. Even when I was studying abroad in Spain in 2005/2006 they had the 1 and 2 cent pieces but many vendors rounded to 5 or 10 cents.

    1 and 2 cent euros were minted for the smaller economies of eastern europe. they rarely circulate in western europe, as you said. but they were never "eliminated" in those countries, they just aren't utilized

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    moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe they should get rid of the penny, and the paper dollar. And then start making a dollar coin the same size as a small cent... 🤔

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    JBKJBK Posts: 15,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another thing to consider in regard to Europe...

    Since they use a VAT (value added tax) that is built into retail prices, they don't usually end up with odd amounts at the cash register neatly as often as we do in the US with our widespread state sales taxes. It is very easy in Europe to keep prices at increments that preclude the use of the smaller coins.

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    OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How has it worked out for Canada? They stopped circulating pennies in 2013.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is not yet reality. Nor do I expect it to be in the foreseeable future. It would take a congressional act to achieve this, which would be accompanied by great debate on both sides. Cheers, RickO

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :D
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you read it on the internet YOU KNOW IT IS TRUE!

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ndeagles said:
    It says 50,000 proof only will be minted in 2023 and auctioned off to collectors starting at $179. With that mintage it's a key date for sure

    WOW !! Interesting developments Only 50,000 coins and only to collectors or Lincoln cent enthusiasts. That'll be a rare coin for sure. Don't cha Think?

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Soldi said:

    @ndeagles said:
    It says 50,000 proof only will be minted in 2023 and auctioned off to collectors starting at $179. With that mintage it's a key date for sure

    WOW !! Interesting developments Only 50,000 coins and only to collectors or Lincoln cent enthusiasts. That'll be a rare coin for sure. Don't cha Think?

    Most will go to coin dealers, flippers and speculators.

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @Soldi said:

    @ndeagles said:
    It says 50,000 proof only will be minted in 2023 and auctioned off to collectors starting at $179. With that mintage it's a key date for sure

    WOW !! Interesting developments Only 50,000 coins and only to collectors or Lincoln cent enthusiasts. That'll be a rare coin for sure. Don't cha Think?

    Most will go to coin dealers, flippers and speculators.

    Yes, I know. I was half heartily making sport of the "low" mintage. In a few years nobody cares.

    No reflection on the OP that I quoted

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope the mint at least use copper planchets considering what they are charging.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Inflation is double taxation. Will everyone be happy when we're all trillionaires and can't buy a loaf of bread with it? Fiat always fails.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:
    How has it worked out for Canada? They stopped circulating pennies in 2013.

    Very well.
    The cashier rings up your sale/meal/whatever and let’s say it comes to $47.63. He/she announces the total at that point and you have the option of paying the exact amount with a credit or debit card. If you tender cash, the cashier enters that amount and the machine prints a new line that says “Rounding” or the like and the adjustment as “+.02” or “-.01” or whatever and the new total to the closest nickel. Very easy and you never gain or lose more than two cents!!!

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    JBKJBK Posts: 15,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2021 10:01AM

    @CaptHenway said:
    If you tender cash, the cashier enters that amount and the machine prints a new line that says “Rounding” or the like and the adjustment as “+.02” or “-.01” or whatever and the new total to the closest nickel. Very easy and you never gain or lose more than two cents!!!

    It would take a law - and even that might be challenged - to force people to accept a rounding scheme.

    I'll tell you what - if the rounding is always in my favor then I am on board.

    But, people and businesses can do this right now by refusing the cent coin part of the amount due. So how come few people or businesses do it? ;)

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 28,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2021 10:10AM

    Next April 1st I'll start the rumor the government is studying unjumping the shark.

    Of course the study will cost a few billion and conclude it's not necessary to unjump any sharks.

    Tempus fugit.
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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The shark was jumped in January

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    edited January 3, 2022 11:52AM

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not believe inflation matters or is even real.

    How does inflation calculate an iPhone or a GPS sonar fish finder on a kayak that was not available 30 years ago.

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