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Kudbegud
Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 12, 2021 8:29AM in U.S. Coin Forum

As official as a posting thread as any other "Official". ;) Post your thoughts, purchasing possibility, or anything else you feel like on the topic. Hope your piggy bank is full to bursting.
I will post the daily KITCO closing price till opening day and a little after.




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  • Orlena
    Orlena Posts: 415 ✭✭✭✭
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    I was in for the four initial issues, but with a proof finish and a $3300 + price tag I’m not in. I spent a wad on Morgan’s, Peace dollars, and all variety of ASE’s and AGE’s this year. It’s my time to back off

  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2021 2:14PM
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    The market closes @ 5 PM ET, 11 AM my time

    I will post info M-F, in the square below in the future. This is to show the bigger graphic displayed on the Kitco Pallidum page.


  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For comparison. The 2020 Palladium is still on sale and following the PM pricing grid. So the 2021 version should be about the same.


  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sorry, I broke my pledge already. I will remember tomorrow.


  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2021 4:33PM
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    I missed the close again. But, here is the spot after the market reopened. @7:23 Eastern Time

    I'll try tomorrow.


  • RMLTM79
    RMLTM79 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭
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    Palladium is too volatile for me to even consider this.

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    In 24 hours the Mint should Lower the price of Palladium offering either 5 tiers or 6 tiers.

    Either $3,000.00 or $3,050.00

    The Mint has never had a 5 or 6 tier price adjustment since they started the new system of pricing Gold, Platinum or Palladium...

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sometime this afternoon the Mint will price the Current Palladium coins at $3,050.00.

    I wouldn't get too excited.

    Currently pricing would indicate a 1 tier or 2 tier price Increase for next weeks Launch...

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Palladium coins have been Repriced to $3,050.00...

  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Old schooling:

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The buy back price says a lot.

  • Samuel8
    Samuel8 Posts: 432 ✭✭✭
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    I already have 2 proof ones.

  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Caught the price today just after the close


  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The United States Mint Grid pricing for Palladium coins will go Up $250.00 on Sept 1, 2021.
    This is Different from the weekly changes in pricing due to fluctuations in LBMA Palladium prices.
    This is a permanent Grid pricing move Up.
    SO...Whatever you think you will pay September, 2, 2021, it just went Up $250.00...

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @cagcrisp said:
    The United States Mint Grid pricing for Palladium coins will go Up $250.00 on Sept 1, 2021.
    This is Different from the weekly changes in pricing due to fluctuations in LBMA Palladium prices.
    This is a permanent Grid pricing move Up.
    SO...Whatever you think you will pay September, 2, 2021, it just went Up $250.00...

    This might be game over for Mint palladium for me. It was already expensive and palladium hit $2,600 asking today for a short while. So is the 2021 likely to be $3,400+/-?

    The other ones for sale from 2019 and 2020 are $3,050 right now before the price increases mentioned.

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Goldminers said:

    @cagcrisp said:
    The United States Mint Grid pricing for Palladium coins will go Up $250.00 on Sept 1, 2021.
    This is Different from the weekly changes in pricing due to fluctuations in LBMA Palladium prices.
    This is a permanent Grid pricing move Up.
    SO...Whatever you think you will pay September, 2, 2021, it just went Up $250.00...

    This might be game over for Mint palladium for me. It was already expensive and palladium hit $2,600 asking today for a short while. So is the 2021 likely to be $3,400+/-?

    The other ones for sale from 2019 and 2020 are $3,050 right now before the price increases mentioned.

    The pricing Wednesday should be $3,350.00 or $3,400.00 for all the Palladium coins…

  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Sorry. I closed my eyes for just a second and.....you know the rest. So below is for 6:11 PM ET


  • Onastone
    Onastone Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    :o That's all I can say. :o

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would say there is an 85% chance Palladium price will be changed to $3,350.00 for Thursday Launch…

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That $250 price increase a day before they sell these, really hurt and should have crushed demand.

    I just can't see this being flipped and wonder how many will try. This should have been a much lower mintage to justify that price increase. If this sells out even after a couple weeks I will really be surprised.

  • pcgscacgold
    pcgscacgold Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow, I never knew the premium on Palladium was that high. Selling $2,500 per oz today and the guess is $3,350 per oz for the sale price. That is a hefty mark up.

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    palladium trading is a thin market

    it is likely the mint cannot hedge. we are paying the price.

    I'd like to know how the mint handles the purchase and sale of palladium. it's got to be hair raising to do.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yes, you will really want to have this issue and gamble on the price of palladium to make it work for you short or long-term. The salad years in Pd Eagles were 2017 and 2018. Glad I was around.
    The love of the flip would be insanity.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    their mintage limit on this is too high. it might sell through, but I'd also expect the same aftermath as the 2020 issue if it does sell through.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    palladium trading is a thin market

    it is likely the mint cannot hedge. we are paying the price.

    I'd like to know how the mint handles the purchase and sale of palladium. it's got to be hair raising to do.

    The Mint leases Palladium for between 1% and 9% of asset value to protect against market fluctuations.

    In FY2020 the Mint paid $100k in leasing fees for Palladium…

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    $3,350.00 has been posted for all the Palladium coins. (2021 you have to dig down to get the $3,350.00)...

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Mintage/Sales reported:

    2017 limit 15,000 sold 15,000
    2018 limit 15,000 sold 14,986
    2019 limit 30,000 sold 18,528 so far
    2020 limit 10,000 sold 9,384 so far
    2021 mintage limit 12,000 and $3,350 price to start.

    This series is losing interest because the price/premium is just too high now. How many years was this authorized?

  • pcgscacgold
    pcgscacgold Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would love to have one but I am not paying that kind of premium over spot. I will have to enjoy this one in pictures only.

  • cagcrisp
    cagcrisp Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Goldminers said:
    Mintage/Sales reported:

    2017 limit 15,000 sold 15,000
    2018 limit 15,000 sold 14,986
    2019 limit 30,000 sold 18,528 so far
    2020 limit 10,000 sold 9,384 so far
    2021 mintage limit 12,000 and $3,350 price to start.

    This series is losing interest because the price/premium is just too high now. How many years was this authorized?

    There is no end date...

  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 1, 2021 12:24PM
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    @cagcrisp said:

    There is no end date...

    That is what I was afraid of. I think we have seen all 4 types of finishes already now? That seems like a good stopping point for me.

  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You would think so that four types, one cycle, would be enough but it is rinse and repeat so if you got in it for the first three years you did OK.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ufda

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • CoinMeister
    CoinMeister Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭
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    Well at least the mint is packaging this one in a clamshell.

    "What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
  • Onastone
    Onastone Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @cagcrisp said:

    The pricing Wednesday should be $3,350.00

    Nailed it!!!!!!!

    I've got the first four and bowing out for this one. That's a lot for a clamshell.

  • Rockdogz
    Rockdogz Posts: 148 ✭✭✭
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    So the platinum eagle, with a face value of $100 is less than half the cost of the palladium eagle, with a face value of $25...

  • MilesWaits
    MilesWaits Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So do you plan on taking them to the bank and calling their bluff?!

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This is actually the first time I am NOT buying one of these from the Mint. I just feel palladium will drop in price over time from here.

  • Kudbegud
    Kudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    USM113697XX

    Yes, I did it


  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This will still be up and not on BO in 72 hours

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I was making an easy prediction

    but thinking about it, perhaps 72 days is just as easy.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • wondercoin
    wondercoin Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Or 372 days?

    Wondercoin

    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • Goldminers
    Goldminers Posts: 4,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @wondercoin said:
    Or 372 days?

    Wondercoin

    Based on the 2020, that is certainly possible. Palladium has a terrible looking technical chart and fundamentals going forward, and this premium is just too high.

  • Sweetpie
    Sweetpie Posts: 562 ✭✭✭✭
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    @Goldminers said:

    @wondercoin said:
    Or 372 days?

    Wondercoin

    Based on the 2020, that is certainly possible. Palladium has a terrible looking technical chart and fundamentals going forward, and this premium is just too high.

    In this case, these double negatives don't make a right.

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,043 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    based on the 2020 they should have NEVER MINTED MORE on these

    at 5,000 or 6,000 maybe they eventually sell out.

    as it is with the 2021, you're going to have a high premium numismatic product that will trade with bullion eventually. A rare prediction from me.

    Or, perhaps they only sell 5,000 to 6,000 before taking them off sale in the future and they retain some numismatic value.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions

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