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Here is a 1936 certified nickel being offered by Heritage Galleries right now, comments anyone?

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To really appreciate this "near gem" you actually should go into their site and blow up the immages.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    You mean sneezed on variety? :#

    @jmlanzaf said:
    We generally try not to comment on live auctions. I know what you want people to say, but it is what it is: Proof 64 Buff - sneezing Buffalo variety.

    We got a winner

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2021 1:54PM

    @amwldcoin said:
    You mean sneezed on variety? :#

    @jmlanzaf said:
    We generally try not to comment on live auctions. I know what you want people to say, but it is what it is: Proof 64 Buff - sneezing Buffalo variety.

    Is it a coin currently for sale by an unknown auction consignor? Did you just cost another Forum member $50 because you had a chance to snark off?

    Will the PVC rinse off (with what?) or will it take a full (or diluted) acid (which acid?) dip to clean up to a 66 or better?

    With today's masking issues, are these two true-blue Americans patriots or just epi-centers?
    Is this a crisis or an opportunity?

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  • MartinMartin Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A opportunity not for me. I would eventually like to pick one up. Just not that one

    Martin

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aaaachooooo!!!

    thefinn
  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "To really appreciate this "near gem" you actually should go into their site and blow up the immages."

    1. Heritage does not describe the coin as "near gem", in case anybody was wondering.
    2. Blowing up an internet image to the size of a trash can lid is certainly one way to evaluate a coin. Not a very good one, though.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I feel this is an attempt at trolling...since you love to apply that descriptor. I will ask you this! Have you ever seen a coin most likely entombed in a slab for more than 30 years with that much PVC conserve? Much less a proof???

    @ColonelJessup said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    You mean sneezed on variety? :#

    @jmlanzaf said:
    We generally try not to comment on live auctions. I know what you want people to say, but it is what it is: Proof 64 Buff - sneezing Buffalo variety.

    Is it a coin currently for sale by an unknown auction consignor? Did you just cost another Forum member $50 because you had a chance to snark off?

    Will the PVC rinse off (with what?) or will it take a full (or diluted) acid (which acid?) dip to clean up to a 66 or better?

    With today's masking issues, are these two true-blue Americans patriots or just epi-centers?
    Is this a crisis or an opportunity?

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,514 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a heart breaking coin. Such a beautiful coin that has deteriorated to this point is so sad. Unbelievable to have a bid on it. I wish it had been better taken care of. JMO
    Jim


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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2021 7:35PM

    I once made money on a 1792 half-disme, VF details, damage on the reverse after possible use as a button.
    Possibly that has made me over-confident as a "damage queen".
    If a braver cosmetician than I can rescue it from the Grim Reaper's fabled Cripple Creek Collection, bravissimo! :p

    I'm at 630 all-in >:) Based on the color, maybe I can sell it to a leprechaun

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will save comments for later but not in my price range anyways.

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,101 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now 930 with BP. Some gambler must think an acetone dip will turn it into a 66

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Connecticoin Maybe they are buying the plastic

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gesundtheidt ! :#

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want it!

    peacockcoins

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not a fan.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Current minimum bid: $800.
    I'm out!

    peacockcoins

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,967 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2021 3:44PM

    I'd be more confident in being able to restore it if it weren't a brilliant proof.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I once tried to get the grade “Gack!” Into the Grading Guide but was unsuccessful.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway You may be onto something new. Instead of CAC for nice coins you could sticker coins with a GACK for coins not worthy of the grade or with problems.

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    sorry, unattractive

    Frank

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  • HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree Frank ...I took in trade a Morgan it was graded by NGC at a 64 with a * + !
    Itbhad IMHO the most unattractive toning as well a damn thumb print in the ulgy toning! Yet because of the star and plus on the slab.
    It reminded me of the old saying "never buy a car made on a Monday or Friday"......as whom ever graded the coin and gave the final pass must of been smokin something!
    And I took it in trade as I knew without a doupt it sell because of * and +.
    It sold the 1st week I had it.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a coin I would be considering.... Though I speculate it could be improved with proper techniques. I just prefer not to spend money on problem coins. Cheers, RickO

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't want it. With all this COVID stuff going around my wife wouldn't let me bring it in the house.

    God Bless You...........................................

    Pete

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am very picky when it comes to Proofs of this vintage. Usually it takes one in the PR-65 or better range to make me happy. That has been especially true for 1936-7 Buffalo Nickels. The “worst one” I have owned a PR-66. The lower grade ones simply had too much wrong with them for me.

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of us small fish would love it.

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quick dip in the acetone pool and it will be good as new!

    Probably not... :#

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At the risk of turning a numismaticly morbid thread into an educational one, I doubt that that’s PVC or snot damage. More likely, I think, the coin was heavily spotted, conserved, and then slabbed. But some removed spots have a way of coming back to haunt a coin for eternity.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka Did they do coin conservation back then? Or you think a collector or dealer did their own conservation on it?

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,400 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @MrEureka Did they do coin conservation back then? Or you think a collector or dealer did their own conservation on it?

    PCGS didn’t offer conservation services back then. I think that someone cleaned it as best they could, and that the coin didn’t look quite as bad when it was submitted. But I could be wrong.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka Also note that those old rattlers were much more loosely put together than todays slabs so maybe environmental damage from however it was stored?? Just thinking aloud here I could be way off base.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @CaptHenway You may be onto something new. Instead of CAC for nice coins you could sticker coins with a GACK for coins not worthy of the grade or with problems.

    That'll get you sued

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    At the risk of turning a numismaticly morbid thread into an educational one, I doubt that that’s PVC or snot damage. More likely, I think, the coin was heavily spotted, conserved, and then slabbed. But some removed spots have a way of coming back to haunt a coin for eternity.

    So, you're saying it's second generation snot?

  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like an honest image to me, now what?

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo now somebody is going to buy it. Last I checked it was close to $800 not including a buyers fee

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  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Milk spots!

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PR64 is not a great grade and 1936 is a difficult year. Some would not be willing to spend 2-3 times as much for a nice one.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    PR64 is not a great grade and 1936 is a difficult year. Some would not be willing to spend 2-3 times as much for a nice one.

    A lightly hairlined PR62/63 would be a better and more attractive option IMO.

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  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭

    Gotta keep those rattlers in their holders...

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    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:

    @davewesen said:
    PR64 is not a great grade and 1936 is a difficult year. Some would not be willing to spend 2-3 times as much for a nice one.

    A lightly hairlined PR62/63 would be a better and more attractive option IMO.

    Hairlines lower the grade more than spots, unless the spots are bad. Hairlines imply cleaning or mishandling. Original surfaces mean a lot for Proof coins of this vintage.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does anybody know how much the coin realized or is the auction still ongoing?

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't want that coin at all unless it could be dipped out. It's horrible!

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,620 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Does anybody know how much the coin realized or is the auction still ongoing?

    $775 = $930 with premium

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen Thanks

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know - if that was a white rattler I'd .......... :D

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 28, 2021 6:00PM

    @davewesen said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    Does anybody know how much the coin realized or is the auction still ongoing?

    $775 = $930 with premium

    Holy crapoly BP - Is it a Heritage action? LOL! It is a Heritage auction - Always wondered why the massive BP %

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Raybo now somebody is going to buy it. Last I checked it was close to $800 not including a buyers fee

    And it's not me.

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