Real or fake Jefferson Dollar 1903?

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Eman4671
Eman4671 Posts: 7 ✭
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Hello!

I have been presented with the opportunity to bid On a Jeffersson Dollar 1903 at a small auction in Sweden, but cannot decide if it’s real or fake.

I am a novice at coin collecting and the pictures aren’t the best, therefor I ask for your help. Should I take the chance?

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  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Looks fake to me. ;)

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Here is the coin on PCGS' CoinFacts

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1903-g-1-la-purchase-jefferson/7443

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    look at the difference in hair detail

    counterfeit

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks real but damaged from use in jewelry which was quite common with small gold coins in that era.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • ricko
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    The pictures of the original differ significantly on the portrait. It could be wear, but just from the pictures, I cannot say for sure. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJones
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    I don’t care for it. At best it appears to be a genuine piece that has been polished. At worst it is a counterfeit with lumps and weaker than expected details. Among the surviving examples, most pieces are at least MS-62 or 63 or better.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    In Sweden, raw, looks polished ... PASS.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • braddick
    braddick Posts: 25,190 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Polished and spent its life in a bezel.

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Certainly not one to own other than for any gold content. Dentils on front at 11:45 and Dentils on back at 5:00 look incomplete and thus would lend me to say it's not real.

    bob :)
    PS: It still may be gold and that could be a plus if it were under spot and has a return privilege so that you can have it tested on an XRF machine.

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you are a novice collector you would be well advised to buy ONLY coins that have been slabbed by a major TPG (Third Party Grader). Do not buy raw coins until you know what you are doing.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Hydrant
    Hydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Polished.

  • golden
    golden Posts: 10,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    When in doubt pass!

  • TomB
    TomB Posts: 23,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    "I am a novice at coin collecting..."

    You just answered your own question. Run away or be ready to lose money.

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  • Eman4671
    Eman4671 Posts: 7 ✭
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    Thank you for the input! I have decided not to bid in the coin.

  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Eman4671 said:
    Thank you for the input! I have decided not to bid in the coin.

    good move.

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • Namvet69
    Namvet69 Posts: 9,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Polished or a cast copy. You should study up our hosts graded images and refer to them. Using known entities is wise. Good luck. Peace Roy

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  • Kove
    Kove Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭✭
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    Genuine, rim banged up, polished...worth melt, though.

  • Steven59
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    @ricko said:
    {The pictures of the original differ significantly on the portrait. It could be wear, }

    Oh No! Maybe a "Weak Strike" :o

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    look at the difference in hair detail

    counterfeit

    The difference could be attributable to wear and/or the imaging, including the lighting and angle.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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