1909S VDB for grading

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Steven59
Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
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With all of the counterfeit post lately on the 1909S VDB cent I was thinking about finally getting mine slabbed. So before I send it off I'd like to get a consensus of what grade it may come back with.

"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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  • MarkKelley
    MarkKelley Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm thinking AU 53

  • DRUNNER
    DRUNNER Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2021 4:24PM
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    XF 45. Genuine. MM Position 4 (from "Counterfeit Detection", Reprint (Numismatist) Vol. 2)

    I like the coin . . .

    Drunner

  • blaircountycoin
    blaircountycoin Posts: 280 ✭✭✭
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    2 votes for XF 45. Nice coin!

  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    55 to 58

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • BuffaloIronTail
    BuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Me thinks AU-58.

    So So little wear.

    Pete

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  • Dug13
    Dug13 Posts: 340 ✭✭✭✭
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    I’ll go with 58.
    great looking coin & great job on the pics!

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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AU55. Nice looking coin.

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  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2021 5:07PM
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    @Dug13 said:

    ( great job on the pics!)

    Thanks, a couple sips of moonshine stopped my hands from shaking - LOL!!!!! :D

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Another vote for XF45. Very nice looking coin.

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  • 2dueces
    2dueces Posts: 6,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think it’s a 55 all day.

    W.C.Fields
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  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bought this coin in 2007, specifically for the "High" rims - it made all the fields and details seem "deep" into the coins surface - probably a bunch of crap but I haven't found a strike like this since.

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  • privatecoin
    privatecoin Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    50

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @gumby1234 said:
    @Steven59 didn't you mean to title this thread 1909 SVDB Giveaway :D

    Funny! Well, it would have to be a "Charitable Donation" - :)

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  • ifthevamzarockin
    ifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin! :)

    AU-58

  • golden
    golden Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    55 here.

  • Electricity
    Electricity Posts: 318 ✭✭✭✭
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    Guessing 50 grade

    What are these marks?

  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2021 8:41PM
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    @Electricity said:
    Guessing 50 grade

    What are these marks?

    No idea -

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  • Off_Cent_er
    Off_Cent_er Posts: 164 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 31, 2021 8:23PM
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    Kinda thinking this coin might have been encased? Would explain the extra thick rims.
    The coin overall looks funny to me though. Sharp lettering near the rim but a softly struck bust of Lincoln. The closeups show some fine pitting. Not saying it isnt real, but just because the mintmark might be in the right place doesnt mean authentic.
    The best counterfeits are made using the real thing as a guide. Just saying.

  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2021 5:03PM
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    If you send it in, ask them to dip it to get rid of those green specks. Nice coin/strike.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Off_Cent_er said:
    Kinda thinking this coin might have been encased? Would explain the extra thick rims.
    The coin overall looks funny to me though. Sharp lettering near the rim but a softly struck bust of Lincoln. The closeups show some fine pitting. Not saying it isnt real, but just because the mintmark might be in the right place doesnt mean authentic.
    The best counterfeits are made using the real thing as a guide. Just saying.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • Hydrant
    Hydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice penny. 45/50.

  • Coinscratch
    Coinscratch Posts: 11,085 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can’t drive…

  • Shamika
    Shamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
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    For a circulated coin, it looks to have some decent mint luster in the fields.

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  • mannie gray
    mannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I've seen inferior coins in 62 holders

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like an XF45 to me.....Let us know how it fares once slabbed. Cheers, RickO

  • ldhair
    ldhair Posts: 7,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    55

    Larry

  • Soldi
    Soldi Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    When I owned that coin it was sold to me as an EF 45. ahhh well, maybe not that particular one, but one exactly like it. ANACS 1978 EF45

  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The luster alone I think puts it in AU territory. It has nice fields but the dark color on the lower part of the obverse will probably keep it out of a 62 holder. I think it will easily be in an AU slab. 58 wont surprise me. It's a nice coin.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin... if that's mint luster in the devices, it would likely go AU-something...

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  • LRCTom
    LRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭
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    I see only the slightest rub. AU-58.

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  • WAYNEAS
    WAYNEAS Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Consensus says xf45 and I am in that group.
    Hope that you do have it graded.
    If so, let us know the results.
    Wayne

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  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    At first glance with the luster I thought mid AU, but after looking at wear I believe XF45 would be the grade most likely given by graders. Maybe AU50 on a great day.
    Jim


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  • LanceNewmanOCC
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    @Steven59

    ever get the grade?

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  • Steven59
    Steven59 Posts: 11,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2022 3:50PM
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    @LanceNewmanOCC -
    During summertime, fishing takes preference over coins so I put it back in the Dansco and forgot about it. I have a few other cents in there I want to have graded eventually but I'm in no hurry. (the unc 55 DDO in the middle of the other 2 is the tribute coin from Grove Mint)

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  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    50.

  • gumby1234
    gumby1234 Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Grove mint coin in there

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  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What's a Grove mint coin?

    "Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
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    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

  • HTW
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    I'm guessing AU 58. Nice Coin!

  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @mr1874 said:
    What's a Grove mint coin?

    Never mind everybody. Once again I answered my own question.

    "Two things are infinite: human stupidity and the universe; and I'm not sure about the universe."
    -Albert Einstein-

    Mistakes are natural. But repeated mistakes without reflection are something else. That may be the “stupidity” he was referring to. In research, he admitted uncertainty openly. “If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?” This shows humility. Even a Nobel laureate accepted doubt. That humility makes the quote less cynical and more observational.

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