CHARLOTTE

ambro51 · December 3, 2009 11:35AM

melvin289 · December 3, 2009 1:56PM

I don't own a Charlotte gold coin and probably never will. Charlotte is 20 miles east of me and I have been to the Mint Museum there to see the Rameses exhibit 20 some years ago.

Ron

WaterSport · December 3, 2009 10:30PM

Is this a new purchase? Seems like you have slowed down lately buying. Coins getting harder to find?

WS

TwoSides2aCoin · December 3, 2009 11:31PM

this will probably be a short thread

Mercury · December 3, 2009 11:33PM

Nice. Does that have a die clash?

Walmann · December 4, 2009 12:16AM

Charlotte's Web

The rarity rankings under research give those unfamilar with these coins a better idea of how difficult they are to find.

ambro51 · December 4, 2009 1:24AM

I personally think that Charlotte gold can be one of the most interesting obsessions when it comes to collecting US Coins. Doug Winters excellent book gives a year by year, and denomination breakdown of each coin, and is wonderful reading, and a MUST HAVE for any collector getting interested in these wonderful coins.

Charlotte Gold Dollars have a look unique to them, it seems they had great difficulty, or didnt care, to produce them in high quality. I can only imagine the shock and horror that these coins received when the sample coins were sent back to the home mint in Philadelphia for assay.

Suffice to say, they are indeed very rare since they were both coined in very small numbers and seen extensive circulation in the surrounding area. The 1849 C open wreath gold dollar remains the paramount rarity of the series, with only five or six known. One thing that has always struck me as interesting, its that these FEW coins show excellent strikes, more in keeping with the Philadelphia coins than any other Charlotte gold dollars. Sometime I begin to think that perhaps an open wreath die was tried out in Philadelphia...and these very few coins were struck there, instead of Charlotte. We will never know...

For YEARS the "hunt was on" for an 1854 C gold dollar....since it had been listed in a book in the Philadelphia Mint. Turns out...it was actually only some of the 1853C gold dollars received for assay that were mistakenly noted as 1854

CharlotteDude · December 5, 2009 10:32PM

Did someone say Charlotte? Here are a few from the vault which represent all the denominations, by type & variety (with the exception of the exceedingly rare 1849-C Open Wreath Dollar).

Type 1

Type II

Type III

Classic QE

Coronet QE ~ Small Date, Small Rev Letters

Coronet QE ~ Large Date, Large Rev Letters

Coronet QE ~ Large Date, Large Rev Letters (I just wanted to post this one also, cuz I like it so...)

Classic HE (The one and only C-mint Classic date)

Coronet HE ~ Obverse Mintmark, Small Revers Letters

Coronet HE ~ Small Date, Small Reverse Letters

Coronet HE ~ Large Date, Small Reverse Letters

Coronet HE ~ Large Date, Large Reverse Letters

Coronet HE ~ Small Date, Large Revers Letters

kaz · December 5, 2009 11:39PM

Always a pleasure to see some of C-dude's treasures!

ricko · December 5, 2009 11:55PM

Beautiful... Charlotte gold is intriguing... Must be something about the C... notice how CC Morgans are in demand as well. Cheers, RickO

fastfreddie · June 22, 2021 7:48PM

Here's a 'cc' for you ricko...

pmh1nic · June 22, 2021 8:26PM

Never own a Charlotte piece but always found the branch mint gold interesting.

kaz · June 23, 2021 5:00AM

12 years on and the conversation is picked up without missing a beat... great looking QE's, FF.

ricko · June 23, 2021 5:11AM

@fastfreddie... Definitely a C C I do not have Nice Charlotte gold there...Cheers, RickO

fastfreddie · June 23, 2021 6:37AM

I couldn't resist the post since I am new to branch gold! Instead of starting a new thread why not resurrect a prior...lol

Where's Charlotte Dude?

BillJones · June 23, 2021 9:57AM

Here are two "CC's" in a larger size.

Crypto · June 23, 2021 2:30PM

I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate

BillJones · June 23, 2021 2:53PM

@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate

The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.

The_Dinosaur_Man · June 23, 2021 3:00PM

Charlotte is so fascinating. I haven't handled too many pieces, but the last one I did work with was misidentified as a New Orleans minted dollar. At some point in the coin's life, someone scratched an "H" into the obverse.

Cameonut · June 23, 2021 3:49PM

A recent acquisition.

Crypto · June 23, 2021 5:54PM

@BillJones said:

@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate

The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.

They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them

SimpleCollector · June 23, 2021 6:49PM

Cameo, I love your recent addition. Great looking coin,
!

BillJones · June 23, 2021 6:49PM

@Crypto said:

@BillJones said:

@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate

The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.

They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them

I found three 1838-C $5 gold coins at a winter FUN show. One dealer had two of them. The worst one, graded VF-20, looked like it was ground salvage with black dirt etched in the surfaces.

The one I bought was the Stanley Elrod piece, and it was not cheap. Specialists tell it’s #7 in the pecking order. If the order really goes down that far.

CharlotteDude · June 23, 2021 7:06PM

Ah... I recall this thread. Unfortunately I had used photo bucket images to download back then.
Here are a few I've picked up since 2009, which seems like eons ago...

This one is a P50/CAC, awaiting the next (if ever?) Baltimore show to bring in for imaging.

Mr_Spud · June 23, 2021 8:03PM

Here’s mine, hopefully I haven’t posted them too often already 🌝

Crypto · June 24, 2021 4:05PM

@BillJones said:

@Crypto said:

@BillJones said:

@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate

The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.

They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them

I found three 1838-C $5 gold coins at a winter FUN show. One dealer had two of them. The worst one, graded VF-20, looked like it was ground salvage with black dirt etched in the surfaces.

The one I bought was the Stanley Elrod piece, and it was not cheap. Specialists tell it’s #7 in the pecking order. If the order really goes down that far.

Thanks, makes me miss coin shows.

mrcommem · June 24, 2021 6:41PM

Here is a set of Charlotte Gold Dollars. They are some of the crudest, ill-made group of coins ever made by a US mint. Most have poor strike, bad planchents, and abundant clashmarks or all at once. The 55, 57, and 59 are some of the poorest made US coins ever made.

BillJones · June 24, 2021 7:07PM

The Charlotte Mint made gold dollars in the odd years and quarter eagles on the even years just before the Civil War. The mint personnel never did learn how make the larger (15mm) gold dollars. All of them were made mushy.

CHARLOTTE

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