I don't own a Charlotte gold coin and probably never will. Charlotte is 20 miles east of me and I have been to the Mint Museum there to see the Rameses exhibit 20 some years ago.
Ron
Collect for the love of the hobby, the beauty of the coins, and enjoy the ride.
I personally think that Charlotte gold can be one of the most interesting obsessions when it comes to collecting US Coins. Doug Winters excellent book gives a year by year, and denomination breakdown of each coin, and is wonderful reading, and a MUST HAVE for any collector getting interested in these wonderful coins.
Charlotte Gold Dollars have a look unique to them, it seems they had great difficulty, or didnt care, to produce them in high quality. I can only imagine the shock and horror that these coins received when the sample coins were sent back to the home mint in Philadelphia for assay.
Suffice to say, they are indeed very rare since they were both coined in very small numbers and seen extensive circulation in the surrounding area. The 1849 C open wreath gold dollar remains the paramount rarity of the series, with only five or six known. One thing that has always struck me as interesting, its that these FEW coins show excellent strikes, more in keeping with the Philadelphia coins than any other Charlotte gold dollars. Sometime I begin to think that perhaps an open wreath die was tried out in Philadelphia...and these very few coins were struck there, instead of Charlotte. We will never know...
For YEARS the "hunt was on" for an 1854 C gold dollar....since it had been listed in a book in the Philadelphia Mint. Turns out...it was actually only some of the 1853C gold dollars received for assay that were mistakenly noted as 1854
Did someone say Charlotte? Here are a few from the vault which represent all the denominations, by type & variety (with the exception of the exceedingly rare 1849-C Open Wreath Dollar).
Type 1
Type II
Type III
Classic QE
Coronet QE ~ Small Date, Small Rev Letters
Coronet QE ~ Large Date, Large Rev Letters
Coronet QE ~ Large Date, Large Rev Letters (I just wanted to post this one also, cuz I like it so...)
Classic HE (The one and only C-mint Classic date)
Coronet HE ~ Obverse Mintmark, Small Revers Letters
Never own a Charlotte piece but always found the branch mint gold interesting.
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Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate
The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Charlotte is so fascinating. I haven't handled too many pieces, but the last one I did work with was misidentified as a New Orleans minted dollar. At some point in the coin's life, someone scratched an "H" into the obverse.
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@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate
The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.
They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them
@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate
The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.
They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them
I found three 1838-C $5 gold coins at a winter FUN show. One dealer had two of them. The worst one, graded VF-20, looked like it was ground salvage with black dirt etched in the surfaces.
The one I bought was the Stanley Elrod piece, and it was not cheap. Specialists tell it’s #7 in the pecking order. If the order really goes down that far.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Ah... I recall this thread. Unfortunately I had used photo bucket images to download back then.
Here are a few I've picked up since 2009, which seems like eons ago...
This one is a P50/CAC, awaiting the next (if ever?) Baltimore show to bring in for imaging.
@Crypto said:
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate
The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.
They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them
I found three 1838-C $5 gold coins at a winter FUN show. One dealer had two of them. The worst one, graded VF-20, looked like it was ground salvage with black dirt etched in the surfaces.
The one I bought was the Stanley Elrod piece, and it was not cheap. Specialists tell it’s #7 in the pecking order. If the order really goes down that far.
Here is a set of Charlotte Gold Dollars. They are some of the crudest, ill-made group of coins ever made by a US mint. Most have poor strike, bad planchents, and abundant clashmarks or all at once. The 55, 57, and 59 are some of the poorest made US coins ever made.
The Charlotte Mint made gold dollars in the odd years and quarter eagles on the even years just before the Civil War. The mint personnel never did learn how make the larger (15mm) gold dollars. All of them were made mushy.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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WS
The rarity rankings under research give those unfamilar with these coins a better idea of how difficult they are to find.
Charlotte Gold Dollars have a look unique to them, it seems they had great difficulty, or didnt care, to produce them in high quality. I can only imagine the shock and horror that these coins received when the sample coins were sent back to the home mint in Philadelphia for assay.
Suffice to say, they are indeed very rare since they were both coined in very small numbers and seen extensive circulation in the surrounding area. The 1849 C open wreath gold dollar remains the paramount rarity of the series, with only five or six known. One thing that has always struck me as interesting, its that these FEW coins show excellent strikes, more in keeping with the Philadelphia coins than any other Charlotte gold dollars. Sometime I begin to think that perhaps an open wreath die was tried out in Philadelphia...and these very few coins were struck there, instead of Charlotte. We will never know...
For YEARS the "hunt was on" for an 1854 C gold dollar....since it had been listed in a book in the Philadelphia Mint. Turns out...it was actually only some of the 1853C gold dollars received for assay that were mistakenly noted as 1854
Type 1
Type II
Type III
Classic QE
Coronet QE ~ Small Date, Small Rev Letters
Coronet QE ~ Large Date, Large Rev Letters
Coronet QE ~ Large Date, Large Rev Letters (I just wanted to post this one also, cuz I like it so...)
Classic HE (The one and only C-mint Classic date)
Coronet HE ~ Obverse Mintmark, Small Revers Letters
Coronet HE ~ Small Date, Small Reverse Letters
Coronet HE ~ Large Date, Small Reverse Letters
Coronet HE ~ Large Date, Large Reverse Letters
Coronet HE ~ Small Date, Large Revers Letters
Here's a 'cc' for you ricko...
Never own a Charlotte piece but always found the branch mint gold interesting.
12 years on and the conversation is picked up without missing a beat... great looking QE's, FF.
@fastfreddie... Definitely a C C I do not have
Nice Charlotte gold there...Cheers, RickO
I couldn't resist the post since I am new to branch gold! Instead of starting a new thread why not resurrect a prior...lol
Where's Charlotte Dude?
Here are two "CC's" in a larger size.
I haven’t owned one in a few years, been looking for the right 38c 5$ to fall in my lap but I suspect I’ll grow old looking at this rate
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
The 1838-C $5 gold is not that rare, but finding a nice one with good eye appeal is tough. They were not as well made has their Dahlonega counterparts, and, going by the survivors, circulated more extensively.
Charlotte is so fascinating. I haven't handled too many pieces, but the last one I did work with was misidentified as a New Orleans minted dollar. At some point in the coin's life, someone scratched an "H" into the obverse.
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They are also extremely popular, a choice example is easily sold and dealers rarely list them is my problem. I would take a D example as well but those are always problem coins when I see them
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Cameo, I love your recent addition. Great looking coin,
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I found three 1838-C $5 gold coins at a winter FUN show. One dealer had two of them. The worst one, graded VF-20, looked like it was ground salvage with black dirt etched in the surfaces.
The one I bought was the Stanley Elrod piece, and it was not cheap. Specialists tell it’s #7 in the pecking order. If the order really goes down that far.
Ah... I recall this thread. Unfortunately I had used photo bucket images to download back then.




Here are a few I've picked up since 2009, which seems like eons ago...
This one is a P50/CAC, awaiting the next (if ever?) Baltimore show to bring in for imaging.
Here’s mine, hopefully I haven’t posted them too often already 🌝



Mr_Spud
Thanks, makes me miss coin shows.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
Here is a set of Charlotte Gold Dollars. They are some of the crudest, ill-made group of coins ever made by a US mint. Most have poor strike, bad planchents, and abundant clashmarks or all at once. The 55, 57, and 59 are some of the poorest made US coins ever made.
Overland Trail Collection Showcase
Dahlonega Type Set-2008 PCGS Best Exhibited Set
The Charlotte Mint made gold dollars in the odd years and quarter eagles on the even years just before the Civil War. The mint personnel never did learn how make the larger (15mm) gold dollars. All of them were made mushy.