Not coins, but....medals. I hope you folks are OK with that in this thread.
One of the problems with collecting patterns is that they are rare enough that they don't present themselves very often. So a long time ago, I started collecting medals as an inexpensive way to "satisfy the buying urge" in between pattern purchases. It turns out, medals are hot now! Especially graded medals.
Recently, even fewer purchasing opportunities are presenting themselves, so I have taken to get many of my raw items slabbed for storage & protection purposes. Large medals are tough to store and I am not fond of using a cabinet to house them. Many people don't like the extra-large slabs, but they do offer good protection for these large medals and make storage easy. They also allow me to show the medals to non-numismatic friends without fear that they will be dropped or mishandled. And of course, the TrueViews.
Here are two of my newly-slabbed medals.
First, here is a Spanish silver medal struck for the Centennial of Mexican Independence in 1910. This medal also comes in bronze.
Next up, a Japanese gilt medal also struck for the Mexican Centennial. (It has been tested several times to see if it was solid gold, so it has a few battle scars.)
More medals headed off to our hosts to be posted in due course. Some cool patterns on the way too once PCGS gets back from vacation.
@Boosibri said:
Just got this trueview back of one of two 65's for the type
Nice! I had been looking for a high-grade 1805-Mo 8E for the longest time.
One came up in a sale a few years ago, but my agent said to wait for a better one.
A better one has never surfaced.
Here's another large medal (102mm) given by the City of San Francisco to the President of Mexico at the time (1925), General Plutarco E. Calles. I used to think this was unique given that it was engraved on the reverse. But I have since seen another, also in bronze, though it was slightly damaged and low grade.
President Calles created a lot of infrastructure in Mexico as well as created the Bank of Mexico in 1925.
The obverse shows the City Hall and arms of San Francisco with rays of the sun emanating. The reverse has an incuse engraved inscription as follows:
Presented
to
General Plutarco Elias Calles
President of the Republic of Mexico
by the Delegation to Mexico
of the
Down Town Association of San Francisco
in Appreciation
and as a token of the good will and friendship
for the People of Mexico
by the
Citizens of San Francisco
Edited to add: I wouldn't think it appropriate to give a president a bronze medal, so I wonder if maybe he was given a silver medal and these bronze examples were for lower-level government officials.... Grove does not list a silver example, however, so perhaps none is known.
I keep telling you guys it's quantity and not quality
One of my local dealers went digging through their way, way old stock vault to find anything to feed the demand for silver (premiums are apparently $8 to $10 above spot_ per ounce _for common vehicles like silver eagles and maples).
Huh. Didn't know I had these. You want them?
They let me have first crack. I took 22 of the cincos and 20 of the diez out of maybe 150 pieces. I needed more silver like I need a hole in the head, but how do you resist fresh BU examples like these for essentially melt?
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last. --Severian the Lame
Same coin different pics I think. Which is more accurate?
Most definitely the second picture. I find it's a rare bird to have a coin that looks as good in the slab as it does in the true view.
This 2 reales is a nice example of the type and big improvement over the VF25 example I had.
It's my hope to one day have a nice example of each denomination of the Charles III set. I already have that beautiful 1786 one real that I acquired from you Brian. I could look at that coin all day.
Same coin different pics I think. Which is more accurate?
Most definitely the second picture. I find it's a rare bird to have a coin that has its picture look as good in the slab as it does in the true view.
This 2 reales is a nice example of the type and big improvement over the VF25 example I had.
It's my hope to one day have a nice example of each denomination of the Charles III set. I already have that beautiful 1786 one real that I acquired from you Brian. I could look at that coin all day.
I had a denomination set at one point. That 1R you have is about as nice of a coin which exists for the type. At least I can't find anything documented which is finer. The 4R is very difficult. I still have this one which is the finest graded for the type last I checked.,
There is a similar coin about that one above too, from a 1914 Peso (not mine, this one is avail at $2,400, I got the chance to buy one two years ago at $250, but I passed, i see it is expensive):
@pruebas said:
Nice! I had been looking for a high-grade 1805-Mo 8E for the longest time.
One came up in a sale a few years ago, but my agent said to wait for a better one.
A better one has never surfaced.
How long since you missed the coin before you decided you shouldn't have waited?
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
@pruebas said:
Nice! I had been looking for a high-grade 1805-Mo 8E for the longest time.
One came up in a sale a few years ago, but my agent said to wait for a better one.
A better one has never surfaced.
How long since you missed the coin before you decided you shouldn't have waited?
Probably 10+ years, but I have since lost interest.
Here's another medal since my coins are still on an extended vacation at PCGS.
At the turn of the Twentieth Century, under Mexican President Porfirio Diaz, Mexico was actively engaged with Europe (hence the famous Caballito by Frenchman Charles Pillet) and participated in many World's Fairs. This rare Art Nouveau medal was issued for Mexico's participation in the Paris Universal Exposition in 1900. 53x90mm in silver by JF Contreras and struck at the Paris Mint. Unlisted in Grove. Ex. Tony Terranova.
Named to Philippe Crozier, who (ca.1911) as ambassador to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, teamed with Cartwright, his British counterpart, in an attempt to weaken Vienna’s ties with Germany. Had they succeeded, WW1 might not have happened or happened later.
I'm trying to determine if PCGS will slab this rectangular medal.
Comments
At PCGS for a vacation....
Let me know when you get it back in 2023
Latin American Collection
A few from the archives.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Interesting coin! What does it weigh? How about an image of the other side?
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
The other side as requested by @MrEureka along with weight.
A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.
A numismatist is judged more on the content of their library than the content of their cabinet.
Not coins, but....medals. I hope you folks are OK with that in this thread.
One of the problems with collecting patterns is that they are rare enough that they don't present themselves very often. So a long time ago, I started collecting medals as an inexpensive way to "satisfy the buying urge" in between pattern purchases. It turns out, medals are hot now! Especially graded medals.
Recently, even fewer purchasing opportunities are presenting themselves, so I have taken to get many of my raw items slabbed for storage & protection purposes. Large medals are tough to store and I am not fond of using a cabinet to house them. Many people don't like the extra-large slabs, but they do offer good protection for these large medals and make storage easy. They also allow me to show the medals to non-numismatic friends without fear that they will be dropped or mishandled. And of course, the TrueViews.
Here are two of my newly-slabbed medals.
First, here is a Spanish silver medal struck for the Centennial of Mexican Independence in 1910. This medal also comes in bronze.
Next up, a Japanese gilt medal also struck for the Mexican Centennial. (It has been tested several times to see if it was solid gold, so it has a few battle scars.)
More medals headed off to our hosts to be posted in due course. Some cool patterns on the way too once PCGS gets back from vacation.
Awesome @pruebas
Latin American Collection
Excellent medals. The design on the first one is quite wonderful. I wonder how it would have translated into a coin.
8 Reales Madness Collection
Just got this trueview back of one of two 65's for the type
Latin American Collection
Nice! I had been looking for a high-grade 1805-Mo 8E for the longest time.
One came up in a sale a few years ago, but my agent said to wait for a better one.
A better one has never surfaced.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Recent purchase
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Those look really nice !
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Here's another large medal (102mm) given by the City of San Francisco to the President of Mexico at the time (1925), General Plutarco E. Calles. I used to think this was unique given that it was engraved on the reverse. But I have since seen another, also in bronze, though it was slightly damaged and low grade.
President Calles created a lot of infrastructure in Mexico as well as created the Bank of Mexico in 1925.
The obverse shows the City Hall and arms of San Francisco with rays of the sun emanating. The reverse has an incuse engraved inscription as follows:
Presented
to
General Plutarco Elias Calles
President of the Republic of Mexico
by the Delegation to Mexico
of the
Down Town Association of San Francisco
in Appreciation
and as a token of the good will and friendship
for the People of Mexico
by the
Citizens of San Francisco
Edited to add: I wouldn't think it appropriate to give a president a bronze medal, so I wonder if maybe he was given a silver medal and these bronze examples were for lower-level government officials.... Grove does not list a silver example, however, so perhaps none is known.
Same coin different pics I think. Which is more accurate?
Latin American Collection
I keep telling you guys it's quantity and not quality
One of my local dealers went digging through their way, way old stock vault to find anything to feed the demand for silver (premiums are apparently $8 to $10 above spot_ per ounce _for common vehicles like silver eagles and maples).
Huh. Didn't know I had these. You want them?
They let me have first crack. I took 22 of the cincos and 20 of the diez out of maybe 150 pieces. I needed more silver like I need a hole in the head, but how do you resist fresh BU examples like these for essentially melt?
--Severian the Lame
Most definitely the second picture. I find it's a rare bird to have a coin that looks as good in the slab as it does in the true view.
This 2 reales is a nice example of the type and big improvement over the VF25 example I had.
It's my hope to one day have a nice example of each denomination of the Charles III set. I already have that beautiful 1786 one real that I acquired from you Brian. I could look at that coin all day.
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
I had a denomination set at one point. That 1R you have is about as nice of a coin which exists for the type. At least I can't find anything documented which is finer. The 4R is very difficult. I still have this one which is the finest graded for the type last I checked.,
Latin American Collection
Always liked overdates that didn't require 10x magnification to see
8 Reales Madness Collection
Nice @pruebas even considering the fact that Calles was a mass murdered and a thief, nice medal.
Muera Garrido Canabal. Muera Calles.
8 Reales Madness Collection
There is a similar coin about that one above too, from a 1914 Peso (not mine, this one is avail at $2,400, I got the chance to buy one two years ago at $250, but I passed, i see it is expensive):
Here is another one not mine too, maybe someone here knows more about it, saw this also not too long ago at $50 (now it is one at $475):
@TwoKopeiki that is an absolute rarity I think.
I know it's Wednesday here and I'm a little bit early, but heck it's close enough.
My newp.
Ex. Cardinal set
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Nice coin
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Nice scarce 4R @JohnnyCache
I won a few raw 8R's over the last few days on Facebook. Will post better shots once i receive them, but they look promising.
8 Reales Madness Collection
How long since you missed the coin before you decided you shouldn't have waited?
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Probably 10+ years, but I have since lost interest.
@BSmith - fantastic additions!
8 Reales Madness Collection
That 1763-Mo 2R was one of my first purchases from living in Europe and visiting stores/auction houses across the continent.
Latin American Collection
Here's another medal since my coins are still on an extended vacation at PCGS.
At the turn of the Twentieth Century, under Mexican President Porfirio Diaz, Mexico was actively engaged with Europe (hence the famous Caballito by Frenchman Charles Pillet) and participated in many World's Fairs. This rare Art Nouveau medal was issued for Mexico's participation in the Paris Universal Exposition in 1900. 53x90mm in silver by JF Contreras and struck at the Paris Mint. Unlisted in Grove. Ex. Tony Terranova.
Named to Philippe Crozier, who (ca.1911) as ambassador to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, teamed with Cartwright, his British counterpart, in an attempt to weaken Vienna’s ties with Germany. Had they succeeded, WW1 might not have happened or happened later.
I'm trying to determine if PCGS will slab this rectangular medal.
beautiful piece @ pruebas. You never fail to disappoint
Latin American Collection
Here's one of my favorite Mexican coins that I just got back from getting new photographs.
One of my all-time favorite designs
8 Reales Madness Collection
Got to decide whether to add a new pool or buy a big coin. Hmmm....
Latin American Collection
That's an easy one. One is a money pit. The other is a money pile.
Or, the pool gives 4 months of enjoyment. The coin gives 12.
I live in Michigan, call that 3 months.
Latin American Collection
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Why do you need two of the same coin? You starting a museum and need to show front and back?
I can see the appeal of both but I think I'm more partial to the 67, at least from these images
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Man, I love the toning on some of these Huntington pieces
8 Reales Madness Collection
Hello and Welcome to tonight's segment on....
Why you should never bid on or buy coins late at night just because your bored
Because if you do... you too just might end up with a bad case of the fuglies
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Nice honest wear on those. I wouldn't necessarily call them unattractive
8 Reales Madness Collection
Yes, all three have "really nice personalities" lol
Charles III Album
Charles III Portrait Set
Charles IV Album
Charles IV Portrait Set
Not sure if I have posted this one before. Very scarce 1811/0 overdate.
Latin American Collection
very nice speciman!
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Waiting to receive this one.
I saw that one! I missed the 1770-G 2R right before this one
Latin American Collection