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never mind, what could have been an informative track of spot and premiums has been removed. I'm not going to tolerate being accused of "manipulating" data by one of the trolls, especially one who spends most of his time here manipulating what is said.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
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think there will be a difference in premium between old design and new design?
Initially yes. But won't matter here, we're looking at APMEX random year prices.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
$35.99 all you want, right here.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
Are you quoting prices from the same time?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
don't need a time. spot price is sufficient
I assume @cohodk is asking if both kitco and spot are, for example, at 12 noon EDT each day.
different time each day
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
Does Apmex change their pricing throughout the day? Spot had a $1 move today so was the Apmex screenshot taken at the close of spot trading or this morning before spot rallied? On a day like today, when spot had an outsized move, it would be easy to manipulate the data to support a narrative. And that would be a shame.
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Kitco and APMEX taken at the same time, not the same time each day
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
Excellent.
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If you had bothered to look at the timestamp of the data post you would have seen that it was after 5 PM. The real shame and only manipulation I'm aware of here is the way you twist others' words and attempt to cast doubt on anyone who dares to disagree with you.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
I never said YOU manipulated the info. I was only explaining how it could be manipulated.
Just because you posted at 5pm doesnt mean you screenshotted the Apmex at 5pm.
I was quite interested in your post, but as you and everyone knows i fight for truth and transparency. Funny how so many always want to fight against that.
I scrutinize data and the presentation of data. One should never be intimidated by the truth.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
You fight to be king of the hill, don't be so insecure.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
Stop with the projectionism.
Im not here to fight you.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Oh well.... There goes a useful and interesting thread.
Cheers, RickO
Go for it, I don't think you are in the cross hairs.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
Another episode of "the world according to cohodk".
BOO !
useful thread gone.
bring it back!
@derryb ...
Well, at least I am prepared... experienced firearms trainer in high level tactics and response. Cheers, RickO
Yup. He took his ball and went home. I thought it was a good thread....good enough to want to ensure its accuracy. I thought we would all find that important.
Apparently the society we now live in would rather cancel logic, rationalism, reason and pragmatism. Years ago i thought this point was way off in the future, but seems its here now.
Got polymer and steel?
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Nice you have been able to fit in to the new normal without missing a beat...
He didn't go home, he just refuses to play your silly king of the hill game.
So, who is in charge of ensuring your accuracy?
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
DB, just ignore his nonsense. Bring back the thread and do it the best you can.
best he can?
this is easy and he was doing fine as it was. the questioning was overboard.
I agree.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
You and everyone else. Just as it should be. Would we really want less?
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Not my place to call others a liar. One of you is enough.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
Nor mine and i never have.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
I remember doing this years ago using spot and the prices charged by Tulving for 90%, ASEs and AGEs.
0 premiums at Tulving these days.
“The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust.” - Satoshi Nakamoto
Touché....along with dozen's of other con artist bullion dealers over the years.
It's what paid shills do.
PCGS is gonna lose this whole new generation of collectors. I mean they pretty much already have, but allowing problems like these to fester has never been good for anybody's bottom line. Gen Z almost doesn't even know they exist.