$2.5 Pattern NEWP
earlyAurum
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I bought a pattern coin out of the Simpson auction last night. I don't think i will be collecting patterns but, because it is a quarter eagle which is the heart of my collection, i thought it would be a cool addition. I had pretty much no idea how to price it but i ended up paying my max bid of 12k hammer. It looks beautiful from the images. Would like hear your views on the coin?
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Congrats! That is one rare pattern. I was in up to 10k on it so there were at least two of us chasing you.......... The coin is nearly unique with a total graded population of two coins. You could make an argument for just about any price but it belongs in a quarter eagle collection so it landed in the right place.....
Fantastic and stunning. I want to add one pattern to my collection but don’t know which.
I like how you tied it into your quarter eagle collection
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It’s great when collectors branch out to the types of pieces that aren’t a part of the normal date/mm sets. It separates the good collections from the great collections, IMO.
And they are extremely educational.
Wonderful addition. Maybe you’ll decide to pick up some other patterns...maybe one in aluminum?
Fantastic addition
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Definitely makes sense for you to have. Great value and terrific looking coin. Congrats
How can you go grow, it absolutely fits your collection along with it being uber rare
Beautiful piece, and as others have said makes sense to add it to your quarter eagle collection. Adds quite a bit of "spice."
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you can have A LOT of fun with a pattern like that.
make a box of 20 up and stick that beauty somewhere amongst the gold and if you have people you can trust to share such a thing with that don't know you have the pattern, let them peruse the box and they will be like, oh nice, $2.5 gold, oh and another and another and oh, wait, what the heck...
Very neat. Now see if there are any in other metals!
Super rare, but I didn’t like the color and quality of the coin when viewing it in hand. That said, you might consider buying the aluminum one being sold tonight. It’s beautiful. And then, if you get it, find a gold one. The three coins together would make a nice presentation.
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I think it's a wonderful coin, and would imagine it is even prettier in hand. As mentioned, quite a rare piece and and absolute inspiring way to augment your quarter eagle collection. Congratulations!
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that's pretty awesome. congrats. i don't know much about them, but this example has ample eye appeal to me.
having a pattern seems like a logical fit to any denomination set. in the case of quarter eagles, i would say you need at least one pioneer example also.
Nice pick up and a great extension of your set.
It would be great to pair this with a TrueView of a 1872 gold (and aluminum)
That's very cool! Great pickup.
Nice!
I rather have a precious metal pattern of a non-precious metal coin than a non-precious metal pattern of a precious metal coin. Not sure why but that weird mental block has subdued my appreciation trough the years. As a series specialist, it makes a whole world of sense and would be one of the coins most pick up first and that’s really cool.
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Great addition to your collection!
How many patterns use standard dies on more precious metals?
I know about the following:
An outstanding and most appropriate addition to your collection.
Way cool!
Well, I like it a lot.
patterns are awesome when dressing up your core collection.
What grade is your new pattern at?
Congrats ... but you may be hooked now ... This is how I got started with patterns ... 1st a 1858 Indian to go with my Indian 1C set ... Then I had to add a J-168 ( large cent planchet Flying eagle) to match up with the small Flying Eagles portion, then a 1882 Liberty Head 5C pattern sample piece to go my Proof Liberty head set ... and then off to the races as I was hook.
Think about an 1872 copper set of regular die gold pieces ... gee you have the 2 1/2 $ piece just add the other 5 pieces now
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The Lincoln and Indians are errors, as is the 1913 gold Buffalo, because they are errors struck on quarter eagle and half eagle planchets. The Pan Pac is arguably a true pattern, because the planchet was specifically prepared for the coin, and because it lacks the mintmark. I could make an argument for the Sacajawea as well, although it’s reall just a fancy off metal strike. The 1814 Platinum half dollar qualifies, unless you consider it an experimental $10 struck from conveniently appropriately sized half dollar dies. And some aluminum die trials qualify, because aluminum used to be a lot more valuable.
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Were the gold cents special ordered?
Regarding fancy off metal strikes, isn’t that very prevalent in the largest category of patterns, pieces de caprice?
I consider the Sacajawea more important than customer special orders as it was done at the request of Mint officials.
Why, they were still a bureaucrat’s fancy where they not? If the motivation was brand self promotion opposed to financial it doesn’t make them any more intended for use as tender.
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
What makes all the difference is that one struck by request of a Mint official vs. a customer. And of course any distinction between the Mint and not-the-Mint matters.
Thanks everyone for your encouragement and critique too. Follow many of your comments, i had strong intentions of buying the 1872 Aluminum $2.5 in last nights. @MrEureka had the most influence. Well the lot came up and i was about to hit the bid button but must have waited to long because it closed. It felt like it just closed too quickly or perhaps i had a lag on my machine but i just missed it. Not the worst thing to happen. Would have been cool. Feels like it went for a very fair price at just over 11k hammer.
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Not sure if Heritage had some timing issues as several times the fair warning message timing to the lot closing was much quicker in many cases ... It happen to me as well on one piece.
Fair Price is strange concept in Auction achieves ... it seems to be 2 price levels in my book. One when a lot closes and one when I am bidding. When there is a piece I am interesting in and I think the lot is closing at a fair price - I bid and then BAM -- 4 increments later I drop out. I often wonder if I had not bid if it would have sold at the earlier "Fair Price". Of course I have been on the other end of that as well winning at a "FAIR" price level and one of you all jump on and drive the price up.
In any case auctions are fun and can be rewarding.
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Well - as luck would have it. I just bought the $2.5 1872 PR65 DCAM pattern from @MrEureka. This is a great story where sharing my experience with fellow forum members has:
Here is a pic of my second pattern:
Congrats @earlyAurum ! Kudos to you and @MrEureka! It's great when forum sales happen!
Here are the TrueViews! I was able to find both the older and newer TrueViews based on the templates. It's actually really interesting to find multiple templates for a single cert number.
Very nice acquisition. Patterns are interesting and part of coin history. Cheers, RickO