@leothelyon said:
I think there's one example out there that has been graded.....just the reverse, I think.
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Yup, that's the information I found as well. I like this reverse as well. Maybe @dcarr or Ron Landis could emulate something similar in the future. Link to the "discovery" below.
@leothelyon said:
I think there's one example out there that has been graded.....just the reverse, I think.
Yup, that's the information I found as well. I like this reverse as well. Maybe @dcarr or Ron Landis could emulate something similar in the future. Link to the "discovery" below.
One potential nit is that the last item says "Overstruck on a real nickel", but Ron's website indicates it's struck on a real nickel planchet. This seems to be a blank planchet that was never made into a real nickel. Do you have one struck on a planchet or a special issue struck on a nickel?
We are proud to announce the re-release of our Jefferson fantasy nickels that were first released in 2002 by the Full Step Nickel Club. The first edition was scheduled for a mintage of 1,938 sets struck in silver as two piece sets in Proof and Matte finishes. Only 730 sets were produced and encapsulated by SEGS which left the mintage open for 1,208 additional sets.The design was Felix Schlag’s winning design in the Jefferson Nickel design competition but was never produced as Mr. Schlag had intended. Instead, the lettering was changed along the the view of Jefferson’s home, Monticello. These fantasy strikes illustrate the Jefferson Nickel the way the artist had originally intended before the Mint made their alterations. The first edition had the initials FSNC 2002 to indicate they were produced under the auspices of the Full Step Nickel Club in 2002. For the Landis Studios editions, those markings were removed, thus making them a more attractive than the original edition.We don’t plan to complete the mintage with 1,208 more sets, but for now we’re releasing 100 two-piece silver sets along with an extremely low mintage of only 40 pieces struck on genuine U.S. Mint nickel planchets.We’ve pre-sold about 30 sets already through a special offering to the Jefferson Nickel Collector’s page on Facebook and now offering this to the general public. They come in a standard 2 X 2 flip with insert cards that are signed by the engraver, Ron Landis and numbered. ANACS has agreed to encapsulate these if you want to submit them for grading.The original price was $38 for the Matte finish and $42 for the proof examples. We’re offering them only as a two piece set for $80. The single, matte finish nickel examples are almost sold out at $95 each. Only ONE ROLL (forty pieces) will be struck on genuine U.S. Nickel planchets and are almost sold out through the initial offering.
@davewesen said:
interesting - it does not say COPY, is that because they are fantasy?
In my opinion, because they do not have the actual striking date as did the 2002 strikes, these are imitation numismatic items subject to the provisions of the Hobby Protection Act, which requires them to be stamped with the word "COPY."
Now we all know that the FTC does not give a pair of fetid dingos kidneys about enforcing the HPA, but that is my interpretation of the law.
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Would that still be the case here, though, since it’s a design that never was made for public use? I guess the key thing would be it’s looking like a US coin but it isn’t matching anything produced by the mint.
It purports to be a numismatic item. That makes it subject to the HPA. Read the text of the law, which I have posted here before.
They also have a denomination of ‘5 Cents’, so in effect, he created a coin. Very different from DC.
You know, I TRIED buying this nickel as well, but the seller cancelled my purchase and refunded my payment. Had a death in his family and wouldn't be able to ship in a timely manner.
I was totally bummed. I really wanted this one. See if you can figure out why . . . .
I noticed the ones you received [set] have the same scratches [?] on Jefferson's coat as my planchet strike did - are those in the die, or—? just curious what those are
my [much more poorly photographed] planchet obverse below
I noticed the ones you received [set] have the same scratches [?] on Jefferson's coat as my planchet strike did - are those in the die, or—? just curious what those are
Those are in the working die, and I assume they're a result of Ron removing the "FSNC 2002" inscription. I suppose I could ask him to be sure.
I noticed the ones you received [set] have the same scratches [?] on Jefferson's coat as my planchet strike did - are those in the die, or—? just curious what those are
Those are in the working die, and I assume they're a result of Ron removing the "FSNC 2002" inscription. I suppose I could ask him to be sure.
righton - I guess I've never seen the original FSNC 2002 issues; makes sense
I noticed the ones you received [set] have the same scratches [?] on Jefferson's coat as my planchet strike did - are those in the die, or—? just curious what those are
my [much more poorly photographed] planchet obverse below
Yep, probably from removing the FSNC from the dies. Here's the pics I took a while back of my SEGS slabbed set.
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Here is an interesting and beautiful alternate die trial reverse pattern cataloged by Judd (#JC1938-1) . . . . . .
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I think there's one example out there that has been graded.....just the reverse, I think.
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
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Yup, that's the information I found as well. I like this reverse as well. Maybe @dcarr or Ron Landis could emulate something similar in the future. Link to the "discovery" below.
https://mikebyers.com/5cdietrial.html
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Obverse $ MCMXXI pattern just like Moonlight Mint's awesome fantasy which was executed & closed in early 2021, limit 100 overstrikes.
I am still over the Moon that I got one of those 100!!!!
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Another Dollar in my originally inspired by Gallery Mint Odd & Curious Collection
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Hopefully something can be done
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Sure, why not . . . .
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Schlag nickels shipped today 🙃💨
Ditto.
I noticed that there were only 11 sets left for anyone who wants a set.
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8 of the Schlag silver sets left AND some nickel o/s updates 👀
6 left
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Did you get an e-mail with a tracking or what? I have no info on my sets shipping as of yet?
Great collection and photo!
One potential nit is that the last item says "Overstruck on a real nickel", but Ron's website indicates it's struck on a real nickel planchet. This seems to be a blank planchet that was never made into a real nickel. Do you have one struck on a planchet or a special issue struck on a nickel?
From the site:
https://www.landisstudios.net/product-page/felix-schlag-jefferson-nickel-planchet
Your right @Zoins i guess I mess up when I try doing to many things at once.
It is a nickel planchet. His Buffalo nickel’s are overstruck
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I just checked and I did get emails w usps tracking, but I think I originally noticed they shipped when checking informed delivery
I received an email with tracking yesterday.
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They also have a denomination of ‘5 Cents’, so in effect, he created a coin. Very different from DC.
I must have gotten one of the last sets, I decided to get one an hour ago.
Probably! I was just looking at it and when I went to order, they were gone!
just in the nick[el] of time w my Schlag planchet strike order 💨
Love the note!
likewise - massive thanks to the community as I would've missed out on this gem of a coin had it not been for this forum's members 🙌
I love the number as well . . .
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That's a nice looking nickel....
the history behind these has been incredible to learn about as well - love coins that have such great stories attached to them
Yes, that is a nice looking nickel. The silver versions should look really nice as well.
yeah, can't wait to see the silver set - mine's coming on Monday 📅👀
Yep!
It's a real shame that wasn't the design ultimately selected.
Got mine today, too. #54. Pictures to follow when I get around to taking them.
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Looking at the design, it would have had some serious striking issues unless the relief were lowered enough to be kind of weird looking.
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In light of buying nickels I went ahead and picked this one up
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These are superior to the FSNC pieces, in my opinion. Better struck, deeper mirrors, and no distractions.
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Maybe with a little modification of the obverse die that could have been overcome. I'd leave the reverse the way it is.
Just because I'm the weird one, I also bought this to go along with the ones I got from Ron . . . . .
Can't wait for any of them to show up. Hopefully the Post Office won't repeat their pattern of the past.
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And I thought I was the weird one for picking up the 1944-P @ZoidMeister
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You know, I TRIED buying this nickel as well, but the seller cancelled my purchase and refunded my payment. Had a death in his family and wouldn't be able to ship in a timely manner.
I was totally bummed. I really wanted this one. See if you can figure out why . . . .
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That would have been very cool!
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As promised:
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Dang nice images @messydesk !
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really beautiful photos, @messydesk
I noticed the ones you received [set] have the same scratches [?] on Jefferson's coat as my planchet strike did - are those in the die, or—? just curious what those are
my [much more poorly photographed] planchet obverse below
My order arrived at my post office early this morning, Monday delivery....
Those are in the working die, and I assume they're a result of Ron removing the "FSNC 2002" inscription. I suppose I could ask him to be sure.
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righton - I guess I've never seen the original FSNC 2002 issues; makes sense
I received my pair yesterday, #56
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Why does one insert have RL initials and the other not?
Yep, probably from removing the FSNC from the dies. Here's the pics I took a while back of my SEGS slabbed set.
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hey, thanks a lot for sharing photos of the originals - really like that the original dies were modified then used for these 2021 strikes