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A Silly mistake: What to do? UPDATE: Excellent response from Stacks

brianc1959brianc1959 Posts: 350 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 15, 2021 11:49PM in U.S. Coin Forum

The large cent in this Stacks auction lot is the famous Silly head variety, not the head of '38: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q8MTL/1839-modified-matron-head-cent-n-2-rarity-2-head-of-1838-beaded-cords-ms-64-bn-pcgs . The mistake is not just in the auction description, but on the holder also. I only noticed because I've been looking for a nice '39 h.o. '38 for some time now, and have finally worked out a deal for on with a member here. Maybe this is a measure of me having fallen down the slippery slope of numismatic nerd-dom, but the mistake bothers me - despite the fact that its really none of my business. What to do?

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes ... let them know.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good work... It helps all parties when these issues are corrected. Cheers, RickO

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do it all the time and every auction house so far has always appreciated the heads up.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a wonderfully attractive large cent though.

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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    letting the auction house know is a good idea then they can correct the mistake and then sell the coin with the proper info and the proper holder

    don't count your chickens before they're hatched

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,245 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brianc1959 said:

    Bravo and 2 thumbs up

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful Large Cent... I'd want it properly attributed.

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    jedmjedm Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes a beautiful coin and I think there's a minor clip with the accompanying Blakesly effect too.

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice Large Cent, but its a couple points too high for my Everyman 19th Century Set.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jedm said:
    Yes a beautiful coin and I think there's a minor clip with the accompanying Blakesly effect too.

    .
    you beat me to it. kudos!

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    brianc1959brianc1959 Posts: 350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @jedm said:
    Yes a beautiful coin and I think there's a minor clip with the accompanying Blakesly effect too.

    .
    you beat me to it. kudos!

    As usual, I've learned something new on this forum, and now I have to do some homework to find out what the Blakesly effect is!!

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brianc1959 said:
    As usual, I've learned something new on this forum, and now I have to do some homework to find out what the >Blakesly effect is!!

    good plan. :)

    now just 9,999 more to go. ;)

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @brianc1959 said:
    The large cent in this Stacks auction lot is the famous Silly head variety, not the head of '38: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q8MTL/1839-modified-matron-head-cent-n-2-rarity-2-head-of-1838-beaded-cords-ms-64-bn-pcgs . The mistake is not just in the auction description, but on the holder also. I only noticed because I've been looking for a nice '39 h.o. '38 for some time now, and have finally worked out a deal for on with a member here. Maybe this is a measure of me having fallen down the slippery slope of numismatic nerd-dom, but the mistake bothers me - despite the fact that its really none of my business. What to do?

    If they are paying you as a consultant you should inform them of the mistake. If they are not paying you as a consultant you should just move on. It is not your problem.

    All glory is fleeting.
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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:

    @brianc1959 said:
    The large cent in this Stacks auction lot is the famous Silly head variety, not the head of '38: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q8MTL/1839-modified-matron-head-cent-n-2-rarity-2-head-of-1838-beaded-cords-ms-64-bn-pcgs . The mistake is not just in the auction description, but on the holder also. I only noticed because I've been looking for a nice '39 h.o. '38 for some time now, and have finally worked out a deal for on with a member here. Maybe this is a measure of me having fallen down the slippery slope of numismatic nerd-dom, but the mistake bothers me - despite the fact that its really none of my business. What to do?

    If they are paying you as a consultant you should inform them of the mistake. If they are not paying you as a consultant you should just move on. It is not your problem.

    What’s wrong with helping a seller, a buyer (and possibly a consignor,) without being paid as a consultant? Just because you would apparently move along under such circumstances, doesn’t mean that others “should”.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 4,270 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:

    @brianc1959 said:
    The large cent in this Stacks auction lot is the famous Silly head variety, not the head of '38: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q8MTL/1839-modified-matron-head-cent-n-2-rarity-2-head-of-1838-beaded-cords-ms-64-bn-pcgs . The mistake is not just in the auction description, but on the holder also. I only noticed because I've been looking for a nice '39 h.o. '38 for some time now, and have finally worked out a deal for on with a member here. Maybe this is a measure of me having fallen down the slippery slope of numismatic nerd-dom, but the mistake bothers me - despite the fact that its really none of my business. What to do?

    If they are paying you as a consultant you should inform them of the mistake. If they are not paying you as a consultant you should just move on. It is not your problem.

    It is good for the hobby and good for the market when coins are attributed correctly.

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @291fifth said:

    @brianc1959 said:
    The large cent in this Stacks auction lot is the famous Silly head variety, not the head of '38: https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-Q8MTL/1839-modified-matron-head-cent-n-2-rarity-2-head-of-1838-beaded-cords-ms-64-bn-pcgs . The mistake is not just in the auction description, but on the holder also. I only noticed because I've been looking for a nice '39 h.o. '38 for some time now, and have finally worked out a deal for on with a member here. Maybe this is a measure of me having fallen down the slippery slope of numismatic nerd-dom, but the mistake bothers me - despite the fact that its really none of my business. What to do?

    If they are paying you as a consultant you should inform them of the mistake. If they are not paying you as a consultant you should just move on. It is not your problem.

    What’s wrong with helping a seller, a buyer (and possibly a consignor,) without being paid as a consultant? Just because you would apparently move along under such circumstances, doesn’t mean that others “should”.

    My experience in the past with informing dealers of various mistakes was very negative. They either ignored what I told them or acted rudely. In the case of large corporations they should not expect valuable information to be provided free. The corporations price their services at what the market will bear (just witness the sharp increases in commission rates in recent years). Why shouldn't you?

    All glory is fleeting.
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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    My experience in the past with informing dealers of various mistakes was very negative. They either ignored what I told them or acted rudely. In the case of large corporations they should not expect valuable information to be provided free. The corporations price their services at what the market will bear (just witness the sharp increases in commission rates in recent years). Why shouldn't you?

    I've had dealers & auction houses thank me very nicely.
    I've had dealers & auction houses ignore me.

    Guesses who I buy from?

    I did love the 1855-O Three Cent Silver that sold on fleaBay last night, esp. as it was actually an 1862.

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