Coin World reports new 2014-D Dollar mule certified!

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CaptHenway
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edited January 15, 2021 12:25PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Coin World Online is reporting that NGC has certified a 2014-D dollar with the undated Sacagawea dollar obverse and the Statue of Liberty reverse found on Presidential Dollars! The coin is slightly circulated, having been found in a group of used dollars obtained at a bank.

Check your rolls and bags and who knows, maybe even Mint Sets just in case!

TD

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  • TurtleCat
    TurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I saw that a day ago. I wonder if it was shenanigans?

  • MWallace
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    edited January 15, 2021 2:57PM
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  • seanq
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    I'll be honest, I've been asleep for so long on this series, I don't think I would have recognized it as a mule without this article pointing it out to me.

    These coins circulate so infrequently that it is entirely plausible there are more out there to be discovered. Since it's a Denver issue, I don't think I'll be rushing to any east coast banks looking for rolls to search, but good luck to those inthe hunt.

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  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My bank routinely saves me all dollar coins and half dollars. I keep hoping to find a Cheerios dollar in the wild. Yeah, right!

    Even though I could drive to the Denver Mint in less than half an hour the stray dollars I see are at least one-third P-mint coins. And I find a fair number of the modern years that were only released in Mint Sets, rolls and bags. So, a 2014 Mule is possible.

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  • ricko
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    Wow... What a cool find. I guess a trip to the Post Office is in order...Do they still give change in Sac/Prez bucks? Cheers, RickO

  • Goldbully
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    @ricko said:
    Wow... What a cool find. I guess a trip to the Post Office is in order...Do they still give change in Sac/Prez bucks? Cheers, RickO

    Time to ride the light rail......kiosks loaded with Prez $1's.

  • MedalCollector
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    COOL!

  • JBK
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    By 2014 weren't all dollar coins available from the mint only?

    If so, the collector who released this one might well have others.

    I guess it is time to start taking all the small dollars the tellers are always trying to foist on me.

  • WAYNEAS
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    a real boost and motivator to the CR searchers

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Guess I'll have to hit my bank again tomorrow to clean out their accumulations.

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  • Zoins
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    It's amazing that the Quarter Sac mules have sold for over $100,000!

    William T. Gibbs wrote:

    Examples of the Washington quarter dollar-Sacagawea dollar mule have realized more than $100,000. Slightly under 20 examples of that coin are known.

  • Kliao
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    Any guesses of the value of this new mule?

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  • TwoSides2aCoin
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    edited January 18, 2021 8:51AM
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    Mint shenanigans. I'd rather have Dan Carr make them for us.

  • CaptHenway
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    My gut feeling is that it is legit.

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  • Lakesammman
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    Pretty cool find. I passed on the earlier mules at auction thinking they might get confiscated - should have jumped in with both feet!

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  • Zoins
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    @Lakesammman said:
    Pretty cool find. I passed on the earlier mules at auction thinking they might get confiscated - should have jumped in with both feet!

    It is interesting to figure out what gets confiscated and what doesn't.

  • Panda4456
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    If I was that person who discovered it. I would sell it for 25,000 and move on before more are discovered.

  • Zoins
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    @Panda4456 said:
    If I was that person who discovered it. I would sell it for 25,000 and move on before more are discovered.

    It was struck in 2014 so how many more do you think there are?

  • Kurisu
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    edited January 18, 2021 11:34AM
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    Does anyone know if it has edge lettering?!

    Coins are Neato!

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  • CaptHenway
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    @Kurisu said:
    Does anyone know if it has edge lettering?!

    Yes. That is how they know it is a 2014-D.

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  • ernie11
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    This news even made me go check my 2014 Mint Set! But no dice.

  • Kurisu
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @Kurisu said:
    Does anyone know if it has edge lettering?!

    Yes. That is how they know it is a 2014-D.

    One of those Doh! senior moments for me...excellent thanks! Lol!

    Coins are Neato!

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  • derryb
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    I'm tempted to open my 100 coin mint sealed bag of 2014 D's.

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  • BLUEJAYWAY
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    @derryb said:
    I'm tempted to open my 100 coin mint sealed bag of 2014 D's.

    Wonder what you could sell the bag for. Run it up the flag pole with a reserve. See if anyone salutes.

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  • CaptHenway
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    @derryb said:
    I'm tempted to open my 100 coin mint sealed bag of 2014 D's.

    Well, since these were not issued for general circulation but the discovery piece was found in the wild, there is a good chance that it came out in one such bag and got spent. If it were mine I would open it.

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  • derryb
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    edited January 19, 2021 8:13AM
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    Had to come from a mint order, either bag or roll. A collector probably looking for missing edge lettering who spends those with lettering.

    does anyone know if the mint still ships $1000 bricks of dollar coins to fed reserve banks for distribution like they did with the early presidential dollars? Found hundreds of Missing Edge Lettering Washington dollars from such bricks from my local banks when the Prezzies first came out.

    One of my finds:

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  • Crypto
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    I can’t get excited for an error form a series I can’t get excited for. Coins that don’t circulate are more like commemoratives than currency and commemorative do next to nothing for me. Might as well be collector plates

  • derryb
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    edited January 22, 2021 6:31PM
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    And how does the TPG know it's a SAC? Could be one of four different 2014 presidential dollars with a SAC obverse.

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  • eCoinquest
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    @derryb said:
    And how does the TPG know it's a SAC? Could be one of four different 2014 presidential dollars with a SAC obverse.

    Maybe the determination is made simply based on whatever the obverse is?

  • derryb
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    @eCoinquest said:

    @derryb said:
    And how does the TPG know it's a SAC? Could be one of four different 2014 presidential dollars with a SAC obverse.

    Maybe the determination is made simply based on whatever the obverse is?

    Appears so. Purpose of the question was to point out that maybe the search should include rolls and bags of the four president issues for that year.

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  • CaptHenway
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    @derryb said:

    @eCoinquest said:

    @derryb said:
    And how does the TPG know it's a SAC? Could be one of four different 2014 presidential dollars with a SAC obverse.

    Maybe the determination is made simply based on whatever the obverse is?

    Appears so. Purpose of the question was to point out that maybe the search should include rolls and bags of the four president issues for that year.

    I thought that was obvious. Check any and all 2014-D dollars.

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    Hello everyone, do you think will this double denomination error be valid? 🤭

  • derryb
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    DDO

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