PL now or hold out for DMPL?

Zoins · December 16, 2020 7:43AM

I have some So-Called Dollars, tokens and medals from ATS which are DPL.

Is it worth crossing to PCGS for a potential PL or wait a few years, possibly a lot, for when they might add DMPL?

Is DMPL more likely now that PCGS is under new management?

I keep telling myself it's about the coin and not the holder, but I still really hate to lose my hard won ATS DPL status

MFeld · December 16, 2020 7:48AM

What’s the downside in waiting?

Zoins · December 16, 2020 7:50AM

@MFeld said:
What’s the downside in waiting?

No TrueViews.

It's "okay" without but it would be better with

PhotoVision has gotten a lot better so that's an option too.

ricko · December 16, 2020 8:25AM

You have to satisfy your inner collector... so make a decision. If it were me, I would leave it as is...Cheers, RickO

coinkat · December 16, 2020 11:04AM

How difficult are the DMPL coins to find?

keets · December 16, 2020 11:16AM

do you need an insert to tell you the medal is DMPL or can you ascertain that by yourself?? buyers will make that same judgement. by now the SC$ market knows that NGC grades Mint State medals with those designations and that PCGS doesn't. some of what I sold earlier in 2020 included NGC PL/DPL's that were same grade crossed into a PCGS capsule and the prices were comparable.

Zoins · December 17, 2020 1:00AM

@keets said:
do you need an insert to tell you the medal is DMPL or can you ascertain that by yourself??

The insert certainly helps when buying sight unseen.

Beyond one's own coin, the other thing is to compare with others since many specimens aren't photographed, either on CoinFacts or on auction sites like Stack's and Heritage. When I look through the ATS Census, it still seems there no photos to be found for many of the specimens graded.

Given there's management at CU, I'm leaning towards waiting and see what comes.

logger7 · December 17, 2020 6:12AM

@Zoins said:

@MFeld said:
What’s the downside in waiting?

No TrueViews.

It's "okay" without but it would be better with

PhotoVision has gotten a lot better so that's an option too.

There are top quality photographers here who will give you images close to Trueview.

Zoins · December 17, 2020 6:17AM

@logger7 said:

@Zoins said:

@MFeld said:
What’s the downside in waiting?

No TrueViews.

It's "okay" without but it would be better with

PhotoVision has gotten a lot better so that's an option too.

There are top quality photographers here who will give you images close to Trueview.

TrueView isn't just about the quality of the photos to me, but having it in CoinFacts and Cert Verification.

PhotoVision isn't on Cert Verification today but I imagine it will be one day.

Zoins · February 7, 2021 8:31PM

I'm currently holding the following and the decision has to be to wait, no question.

HK-349 NGC MS65 DPL POP 2/0
HK-131A NGC MS64 DPL POP 1/0
HK-495 NGC MS66 PL POP 1/0

It has nothing to do about price but proper designation.

Given that PCGS uses DMPL for Morgans, fractional gold and even ATB pucks, hopefully PCGS can add DMPL for all coins, tokens and medals. See the requests here:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1049342/pcgs-please-bring-dmpl-to-all-coins-tokens-and-medals-like-cal-fractionals-atb-5oz-pucks#latest

PL now or hold out for DMPL?

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