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Does anyone know if PCGS will put the COA number on the cert label for MayFlower coins?

GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

I know,,,,,, call them and ask. I was #133 on their call back list and they just called me and I got all my questions answered but forgot to ask about that one. I know the Mint is numbering the COA's so I was wondering?

Also would the package need to be sealed to get the COA number on the label?

GrandAm :)

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that would be a good idea.

    slab the COA and put the COA number on the label.

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2020 5:32PM

    @MsMorrisine said:
    that would be a good idea.

    slab the COA and put the COA number on the label.

    Didn't they do this awhile back on another issue?

    PCGS will put the silver and gold coins in a 2 coin holder for a $20 oversized holder fee.

    That is 2 gold or 2 silver,,,,,,,, actually I didn't ask if they would mix gold and silver in a 2 coin holder,,,,,, just if they would slab the sets,,,,, gold or silver in a dual holder and they will.

    GrandAm :)
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thanks!

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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    YES,,,, THANK-YOU!

    GrandAm :)
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a cool option.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the idea of the two coins in one holder... No idea about the COA number... makes sense though, since there are a limited quantity of them. Cheers, RickO

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    will say I'm not a fan of requirements being you send in sealed mint package - being expert graders / authenticators, are they that concerned about forgeries?

    it really puts the burden of the unknown on the buyer - I certainly wouldn't want an unsigned coa slabbed

    couldn't the mint, after signatures, just take a group photo, as it were, for authentication archives?

    honestly don't get what would be so wrong about submitters opening their shipments prior to sending in to see if their coa is signed 🤷‍♂️

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it's a matter of mix and match.

    the coins in a sealed box are definitely associated with that number coa, thus the number on the pcgs label matches the coa label.

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  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ok, but as far as mix and match goes, all the coins are minted then get mixed and matched up to their coas, so why would it really matter? not like coa 1 went w the v first coin off the presses, coa 2 w the 2nd, etc 🤔

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are any Mayflower coa’s supposed to be signed?

    GrandAm :)
  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mayflower usa coas are numbered from what I recall.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    ok, but as far as mix and match goes, all the coins are minted then get mixed and matched up to their coas, so why would it really matter? not like coa 1 went w the v first coin off the presses, coa 2 w the 2nd, etc 🤔

    this is a case of rules are rules. the coins in the box are "####" to match the coa. that's the way it goes.

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  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    righton - im just voicing my opinion that I think those admittedly arbitrary rules are not good - waiting for the day when they are updated to be more practical

  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭
    edited November 19, 2020 9:33AM

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    righton - im just voicing my opinion that I think those admittedly arbitrary rules are not good - waiting for the day when they are updated to be more practical

    I believe it’s so you can’t make a set of a 70 plus a signed cert. If they didn’t do it this way the signed certs could all get paired up with 70s and sell for way more.

    What’s the extra $5 charge for though if your cert is found to be signed?

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    yes

    Do you have a link where the Mint says this? I have not been able to find one,

    GrandAm :)
  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 19, 2020 9:53AM

    From the Mint on the gold set.
    A beautiful Certificate of Authenticity with a brief story of the Mayflower departure and arrival is included along with information about this collaborative set. Both the Director of the United States Mint and the Deputy Master/Chief Executive of The Royal Mint signatures are included on the certificate along with the product limit. These certificates are individually numbered and the United States Mint product limit for this set is only 4,850.

    Silver set is the same text but 9,200 limit.

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    yes

    Do you have a link where the Mint says this? I have not been able to find one,

    in product descriptions

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dollar2007 said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    righton - im just voicing my opinion that I think those admittedly arbitrary rules are not good - waiting for the day when they are updated to be more practical

    I believe it’s so you can’t make a set of a 70 plus a signed cert. If they didn’t do it this way the signed certs could all get paired up with 70s and sell for way more.

    What’s the extra $5 charge for though if your cert is found to be signed?

    not at all about the extra 5 and all abt the 20 if its unsigned

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,660 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

    GrandAm :)
  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

    Oh that’s right. The WWII silver medal had the random signed ones.

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

    omg you're right - sorry for causing confusion - yep, just individually numbered certs for the mayflowers

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

    I believe that is correct. I can't imagine both Mint director's actually signing 10,000 pieces of paper in person...

    I should get mine in an hour and will open it up and take a photo of the certificate.

  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 628 ✭✭✭✭

    Will they grade the US medal in the silver set?

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 34,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pcgs grades mint medals

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dollar2007 said:

    @GRANDAM said:
    I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

    Oh that’s right. The WWII silver medal had the random signed ones.

    And so did the colorized basketball 50c & $1 proof coins. 298 HALF DOLLARS & likewise for the dollars

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."

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