Does anyone know if PCGS will put the COA number on the cert label for MayFlower coins?

GRANDAM

I know,,,,,, call them and ask. I was #133 on their call back list and they just called me and I got all my questions answered but forgot to ask about that one. I know the Mint is numbering the COA's so I was wondering?

Also would the package need to be sealed to get the COA number on the label?

MsMorrisine

that would be a good idea.

slab the COA and put the COA number on the label.

GRANDAM

@MsMorrisine said:
that would be a good idea.

slab the COA and put the COA number on the label.

Didn't they do this awhile back on another issue?

PCGS will put the silver and gold coins in a 2 coin holder for a $20 oversized holder fee.

That is 2 gold or 2 silver,,,,,,,, actually I didn't ask if they would mix gold and silver in a 2 coin holder,,,,,, just if they would slab the sets,,,,, gold or silver in a dual holder and they will.

MetroD

https://www.pcgs.com/COA

MsMorrisine

thanks!

GRANDAM

YES,,,, THANK-YOU!

ms70

That's a cool option.

ricko

I like the idea of the two coins in one holder... No idea about the COA number... makes sense though, since there are a limited quantity of them. Cheers, RickO

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

will say I'm not a fan of requirements being you send in sealed mint package - being expert graders / authenticators, are they that concerned about forgeries?

it really puts the burden of the unknown on the buyer - I certainly wouldn't want an unsigned coa slabbed

couldn't the mint, after signatures, just take a group photo, as it were, for authentication archives?

honestly don't get what would be so wrong about submitters opening their shipments prior to sending in to see if their coa is signed 🤷‍♂️

MsMorrisine

it's a matter of mix and match.

the coins in a sealed box are definitely associated with that number coa, thus the number on the pcgs label matches the coa label.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

ok, but as far as mix and match goes, all the coins are minted then get mixed and matched up to their coas, so why would it really matter? not like coa 1 went w the v first coin off the presses, coa 2 w the 2nd, etc 🤔

GRANDAM

Are any Mayflower coa’s supposed to be signed?

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

yes

MsMorrisine

mayflower usa coas are numbered from what I recall.

MsMorrisine

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
ok, but as far as mix and match goes, all the coins are minted then get mixed and matched up to their coas, so why would it really matter? not like coa 1 went w the v first coin off the presses, coa 2 w the 2nd, etc 🤔

this is a case of rules are rules. the coins in the box are "####" to match the coa. that's the way it goes.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

righton - im just voicing my opinion that I think those admittedly arbitrary rules are not good - waiting for the day when they are updated to be more practical

Dollar2007

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
righton - im just voicing my opinion that I think those admittedly arbitrary rules are not good - waiting for the day when they are updated to be more practical

I believe it’s so you can’t make a set of a 70 plus a signed cert. If they didn’t do it this way the signed certs could all get paired up with 70s and sell for way more.

What’s the extra $5 charge for though if your cert is found to be signed?

GRANDAM

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
yes

Do you have a link where the Mint says this? I have not been able to find one,

Goldminers

From the Mint on the gold set.
A beautiful Certificate of Authenticity with a brief story of the Mayflower departure and arrival is included along with information about this collaborative set. Both the Director of the United States Mint and the Deputy Master/Chief Executive of The Royal Mint signatures are included on the certificate along with the product limit. These certificates are individually numbered and the United States Mint product limit for this set is only 4,850.

Silver set is the same text but 9,200 limit.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

@GRANDAM said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
yes

Do you have a link where the Mint says this? I have not been able to find one,

in product descriptions

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

@Dollar2007 said:

@ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
righton - im just voicing my opinion that I think those admittedly arbitrary rules are not good - waiting for the day when they are updated to be more practical

I believe it’s so you can’t make a set of a 70 plus a signed cert. If they didn’t do it this way the signed certs could all get paired up with 70s and sell for way more.

What’s the extra $5 charge for though if your cert is found to be signed?

not at all about the extra 5 and all abt the 20 if its unsigned

GRANDAM

I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

Dollar2007

@GRANDAM said:
I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

Oh that’s right. The WWII silver medal had the random signed ones.

ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ

@GRANDAM said:
I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

omg you're right - sorry for causing confusion - yep, just individually numbered certs for the mayflowers

Goldminers

@GRANDAM said:
I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

I believe that is correct. I can't imagine both Mint director's actually signing 10,000 pieces of paper in person...

I should get mine in an hour and will open it up and take a photo of the certificate.

Goldminers

GiveMeProof

Will they grade the US medal in the silver set?

MsMorrisine

pcgs grades mint medals

OPA

@Dollar2007 said:

@GRANDAM said:
I believe that is just a printed signature,,,,,, not the live signatures that would be the money certificates.

Oh that’s right. The WWII silver medal had the random signed ones.

And so did the colorized basketball 50c & $1 proof coins. 298 HALF DOLLARS & likewise for the dollars