PCGS slabs Daniel Carr! Way to go! You rock!

I hope this is a joke. Are they also slabbing the NORFED guy's coins too? What about the Omega man's?

Edited: Is this limited to his "novelty" pieces or are the overstrikes included too?

+1

@Zoins said:
It's interesting that the denomination starts with "P" for "P100 Am". I would imagine "S" for Silver would be more fitting? P sounds like Platinum. Anyone know what P stands for here?

P for Pattern?
(It doesn’t really fit but it’s the only thing that comes to mind).

No prongs either... Sweet!

For those who are opposed to these being slabbed, could you please explain why?

Obviously some people like to collect them. I don't, but more power to those that do. It's more business for PCGS. And sometimes there are comments that someone could be scammed not knowing that these are fantasy pieces. Grading and labeling makes it very clearly exactly what they are, reducing possible confusion. So I'm not really seeing any negatives beyond one's individual personal preference, but perhaps I'm missing something.

Anyone know what all is allowed to be graded yet? I have a few I may send in..

@TommyType said:

@Davideo said:
For those who are opposed to these being slabbed, could you please explain why?

Obviously some people like to collect them. I don't, but more power to those that do. It's more business for PCGS. And sometimes there are comments that someone could be scammed not knowing that these are fantasy pieces. Grading and labeling makes it very clearly exactly what they are, reducing possible confusion. So I'm not really seeing any negatives beyond one's individual personal preference, but perhaps I'm missing something.

I wouldn't say I'm "opposed" to slabbing privately made little round disks, (covering all the bases).

But I think PCGS is taking on a little risk. The grading is one thing...it's the authenticity that could become an issue. Just opening up a Krause book, saying, "Yeah, that looks like it", and certifying it as "authentic" seems questionable to me.

With all of the possible manufacturers, with the range of quality, workmanship, and methods, it's pretty hard to take on the role of being the "expert" on all of them. Particularly if you've never actually SEEN one before.

Why does this matter? If a certain low production issue suddenly becomes popular, (and expensive), I can imagine the counterfeiters are sure to follow. Now, just "looks like the one in the book" isn't nearly enough "expertise" any longer.

Guess it's certainly their call to make. But they may want to be careful?!

Same risk as with all other exonumia.

If they were going to confiscate the Amero's they would have done so in 2007 or 2008 when news of these pieces hit the National Media.

I bought one of the 2007 before it did, I liked the design and the price was right.

When the consiracy theories first started during George W Bush administration people believed that a new world order was about to start, and there were rumors that AMERO coins were being produced in secret, there was talk, about this for weeks.

I believe that Dan at that time had already talked with the media.

I decided to put mine on eBay at the time it was in the press, to the laugh's here on the board, until it sold for a nice price at the time. The laughing stopped, I went back to buy more and they were sold out. Now I wish I had kept it.

As far as I know Dan was not in any trouble with the government as the media reports stopped..

Checked it out. I'm sure there's a thread or two around that explains it all.

I was looking around to see what other Carr material may have been graded.

Interestingly, the coin that's the subject of this thread is erroneously listed by PCGS under "Canada"

https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/category/4454?l=100-1976-2011&ccid=4454&sn=804121&pn=-63&ps=-1

There's a placeholder entry under "PCGS Population Report - World" (https://www.pcgs.com/pop/worldcoins) for Union of North America, but no entries are present.

As far as I can tell, nothing else by Carr has been slabbed by PCGS. The 1964-D Peace is eligible as it is listed as X#383 in "Krause Unusuals listed in the US Section, from the reference "Unusual World Coins, 6th Edition" by Krause Publications" and PCGS has identified this as a list of coins / tokens eligible for grading.

Seems like PCGS is leaving a ton of money on the table by failing to slab these with other exonumia.

I mean, why not?

ANACS slabs are the worst, and they are enjoying exclusivity among the Carr fanatics.

@coinsarefun said:
I submitted one 8-10 monthS back. They returned it in a flip saying they don’t grade these.
But, I did get some pics from the photography Dept. They sent me a few different others
that didn’t slab and some that did, asking which pics I liked. Better before they sent the trueviews

Can I ask...when you submitted it, did you reference the Unusual World Coins? PCGS says themselves they recognize this source. They will even slab the “Squared Quarters” by Andor Orand and I’ve seen a number in PCGS slabs for sale

@philographer It was back in March/April. Of this year.
Yes. I included a copy of the page.

@7Jaguars said:
The last Unusual World Coins that I could find was 6th edition published in 2011.

Yes, that’s the cited reference.

No doubt a PO01 lowball will show up soon....

i have so many Daniel Carr issues that I had to stop buying them as I ran out of room to store them.