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1836 50/00

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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say AU58 and a nice one at that.

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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 said:
    I would say AU58 and a nice one at that.

    +1

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 said:
    I would say AU58 and a nice one at that.

    +2

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Maybe 58.
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    Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda hard to tell from the trueview. I’m gonna say 55.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 50/00 is it? It also looks to me to be AU55.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU-58

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 11,229 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU-55


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess AU58...Cheers, RickO

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice! 55-58, I think.
    Lance.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    android01android01 Posts: 306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58 or Unc.. Maybe I am naive, but don't see how that coin circulated at all and must have been in collections soon after it was minted.

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actual grade?

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,229 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 58 to me.
    Nice

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mmmmm ... eye candy!

    Expanded the pictures ... 55, 55+ or 58 ... or otherwise can be called a killer Choice / Very Choice AU


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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    60

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 here.

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    easternwoodseasternwoods Posts: 17 ✭✭✭

    THE GRADE IS AU55 BOO ! Thanks for all of your Comments .
    The Coin never circulated .

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @easternwoods said:
    THE GRADE IS AU55 BOO ! Thanks for all of your Comments .
    The Coin never circulated .

    Get it regraded.
    Lance.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It may have never circulated, but it doesn't exactly appear to be uncirculated, either.

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2020 6:59AM

    Luster in the fields is heavily broken. That coin could have circulated for years to get that way. Find a nice BU Franklin half and put it in your pocket. Carry it around daily for months and see how it changes. You won't be able to see any change in condition for quite some time. Your cotton pocket (and fingers) are considerably softer than silver metal. If that coin didn't technically "circulate," then it spent a lot of time in a wooden drawer sliding around....similar effect.

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    easternwoodseasternwoods Posts: 17 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for your Comments ,
    BU Rub / Cabinet Friction Call it what you like the 50/00 Very scarce this nice undervalued
    in my personal opinion AU 58 ( as Shared by many others )

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2020 8:39AM

    @easternwoods said:
    Thanks for your Comments ,
    BU Rub / Cabinet Friction Call it what you like the 50/00 Very scarce this nice undervalued
    in my personal opinion AU 58 ( as Shared by many others )

    These are all radically different things. Let's be accurate rather than just calling it "what we like." Cabinet friction is the utmost of minor and barely perceptable wear on a coin. Since the fields are generally protected (they are not high points)....they should usually have full cartwheel luster throughout them. You could call those coins AU61/62/63/64. BU Rub was a coin first heavily used by Bowers in his 1970's catalogs. Rub is not the same as cabinet friction. Imo a coin gets "rub" from heavy handling, mishandling and just plain old hand to hand circulation. AU58 is another way to describe a coin that saw "considerable" circulation. If you want to use the term cabinet friction, then first show me a coin with full field luster - where only the highest profile features of the coin have missing luster. If there's considerable rub in the fields (ie missing patches of luster) that's very likely a worn/circulated coin. Also remember to look at the flat rims for signs of missing luster, rounded and smooth texture....all signs of friction/rub.

    Take a look at Morgans or $20 gold pieces, coins that spent much of their lives in large bags being tossed around. The luster on those coins is usually full in the fields with numerous scattered abrasions/grazes. Only the high point features tend to show as friction grazes.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 9,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a seasoned veteran in this field, I am interested in the basis of your judgments on this threat. AU55 and AU58 and 58+ show different levels of rub. Circulation that does not impair a coin's surfaces with hits and other impairments, just circulation based friction. How would you visualize those circumstances? Doesn't circulation necessarily involve substantial impairments as the hands and fingers linger over the surfaces?

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