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Morgan GTG! Grade Posted.

marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 6, 2020 6:05PM in U.S. Coin Forum


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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unc details. I think the striations I'm seeing cause that grade. Hope I'm wrong and it's an MS 64+.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+PL

    I like it.

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    HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 64ish with some interesting die cracks.

    Nice!

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    davids5104davids5104 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭✭

    64 or 65....

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2020 7:12PM

    63, if you can crack, dip. regrade perhaps a 64 maybe even with the cacs Congrats!

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Cheek and face dings hurt a bit.
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    SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry after reevaluation of picks I'm a grade low on all:

    64, if you can crack, dip. regrade perhaps a 65 maybe even with the cacs

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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63, could be a 64 after a good bath

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    Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will say 65.

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    bcdeluxebcdeluxe Posts: 209 ✭✭✭

    4

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It depends on how heavy the hits on the face are. I'd call it 66 shot 65+.

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    Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d say 65. The nicks on the upper cheek are too distracting for 66. No matter what it’s great looking.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pnies20 said:

    Proper etiquette is to let 24hrs pass to give others a chance.

    I know the feeling when a gtg ends too soon.

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    JBNJBN Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64+

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    ElectricityElectricity Posts: 318 ✭✭✭✭

    65+ Fields look amazing

    Only holdbacks I see are dings on face and the carbon spots next to the cotton balls

    Whoever said something about striations, it appears that its common on this issue.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 12,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 65 at least to me.

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say 64... mainly due to the cheek dings and field dings on the reverse.....Cheers, RickO

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+. Looks like it probably has booming luster.

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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65+

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whoa!
    Ranges of 63 needs a bath, to 66.
    Noice WAGs!
    Here is another view.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Such a range of guesses is really par for the course on a GTG.

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    59Horsehide59Horsehide Posts: 427 ✭✭✭

    Just goes to show how subjective grading is. To me it is a 64.

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    bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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    RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My initial grade was 63+, but after seeing the 2nd image, I'll say MS64.

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    cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 6,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Such a range of guesses is really par for the course on a GTG.

    true - would have been mildly disappointing if everyone had it down pat to one grade ;)

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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Second photos make it look better than the first. Could be a 64, even without a bath... :D

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    vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64,

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shows how hard it is to grade by picture. To me the cheek hits are too much for 65 and I’d go with 64. If it was simply luster disturbance I’d go with 65.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    It depends on how heavy the hits on the face are. I'd call it 66 shot 65+.

    Closest WAG is @cameonut2011 and he still got it off by a + :o
    This graded 66+
    And it is beaned.
    TV below
    The second photo I posted above is also from PCGS.
    The opening pics is from SB

    The hits on the face is really subtle in hand, truly minimal. See how often times a picture can go either way?
    Was advised it would 7 without that.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CCGGG said:
    Second photos make it look better than the first. Could be a 64, even without a bath... :D

    as for you, you should get spanked for that comment lol, this baby ain't never gettin a bath.

    How was everyone off this much? I've never had that happen.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2020 6:18PM

    Without the noise on the portrait, I would have been at 66. As I said, a beautiful coin! The grade penalization for marks in prime focal areas seems to grow progressively less over time. I guess the test of the grade will be how much the coin brings when you go to sell it... ;)

    p.S. We're grading off a photo, and if the lighting exaggerates the marks........

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @CCGGG said:

    as for you, you should get spanked for that comment lol, this baby ain't never gettin a bath.

    How was everyone off this much? I've never had that happen.

    I own 63's with less check chatter, not sure how they can say 66 but if you like it, that's all that matters. Congrats!

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    JBNJBN Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @CCGGG said:
    Second photos make it look better than the first. Could be a 64, even without a bath... :D

    as for you, you should get spanked for that comment lol, this baby ain't never gettin a bath.

    How was everyone off this much? I've never had that happen.

    I recognized the quality of the fields and other positive attributes. I just cannot award gem status with such marks on Liberty's face.

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    Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Proper etiquette is to let 24hrs pass to give others a chance.

    I know the feeling when a gtg ends too soon.

    I was just kidding.

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was guessing that the toning slightly muted the luster. I guess it does not. That is one of the caveats of grading from images. Nice coin.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    Without the noise on the portrait, I would have been at 66. As I said, a beautiful coin! The grade penalization for marks in prime focal areas seems to grow progressively less over time. I guess the test of the grade will be how much the coin brings when you go to sell it... ;)

    p.S. We're grading off a photo, and if the lighting exaggerates the marks........

    Correct, the lighting is bringing up the cheek marks way worse than in hand.

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @CCGGG said:
    Second photos make it look better than the first. Could be a 64, even without a bath... :D

    as for you, you should get spanked for that comment lol, this baby ain't never gettin a bath.

    How was everyone off this much? I've never had that happen.

    I got here too late and always guess too high so, I would have probably got it right this time. The fields do look amazing, congrats!

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 6, 2020 9:26PM

    @JBN said:

    @marcmoish said:

    @CCGGG said:
    Second photos make it look better than the first. Could be a 64, even without a bath... :D

    as for you, you should get spanked for that comment lol, this baby ain't never gettin a bath.

    How was everyone off this much? I've never had that happen.

    I recognized the quality of the fields and other positive attributes. I just cannot award gem status with such marks on Liberty's face.

    I'll attempt to post some cheek scans tomm to show how it looks in hand. Then you can comment if its gem status etc.

    The disparity of grades between 64 and 66 is big. It would not have graded 66+ or get beaned altogether, based on your comment.

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    JBNJBN Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marcmoish said:

    @JBN said:

    @marcmoish said:

    @CCGGG said:
    Second photos make it look better than the first. Could be a 64, even without a bath... :D

    as for you, you should get spanked for that comment lol, this baby ain't never gettin a bath.

    How was everyone off this much? I've never had that happen.

    I recognized the quality of the fields and other positive attributes. I just cannot award gem status with such marks on Liberty's face.

    I'll attempt to post some cheek scans tomm to show how it looks in hand. Then you can comment if its gem status etc.

    The disparity of grades between 64 and 66 is big. It would not have graded 66+ or get beaned altogether, based on your comment.

    I don't think I should be able to bean my own GTGs, but I'll do so: MS64+ CAC. It is a very nice coin. I'm glad you are happy with it.
    I (and for me only) attempted to respond to your how was everyone off this much question. Congratulations on your dollar and please don't take my GTG and explanation adversely.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, this gives me hope my GSA 1881cc might hit 65 or 66. It has clean fields and the cheek only has minor abrasions. Of course I have to send it in first...

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    ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow, I guessed a 66 then read the thread and thought I might be high B)

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