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YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

It’s not early gold....
It’s not Liberty head gold...

You like it or you don’t!

What do you think of the series in general?

Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like the series. I tried to make a complete set back in the early 1980's. I only was missing the $5 1838-C. I never could find one that I really liked. I sold them off years ago. Today I only have one of each denomination.

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've always liked the Liberty's better. I don't know why, but the Classic Heads never grabbed me. I also like the Draped Bust + Capped Bust as much if not more than the Liberty's...just don't wanna spend the money!

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not really a fan of the artwork but I'm not at all picky, any gold I can get at spot (or less) is always a welcome friend of mine.

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  • matt_dacmatt_dac Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As you can tell from my member picture, I like them!

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I liked it better when no one did. They sold for same as the libs.

  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Despite the poor artistry, I really like them. But unlike Liberty head half eagles I really don’t like the way they look in VF or lower. The design just tends to look funky when they are worn.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them. Affordable pre-Civil War gold. Not too hard to find a nice one. I prefer Libertys, but Classics are a nice type to have one or two of, especially with a mint mark.

  • NSPNSP Posts: 322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the design, and hope to own one someday. They’re the earliest US gold coin I could reasonably hope to afford (assuming I don’t win the lottery, marry a millionaire, take up an illegal side job, etc.).

  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NSP said:
    I like the design, and hope to own one someday. They’re the earliest US gold coin I could reasonably hope to afford (assuming I don’t win the lottery, marry a millionaire, take up an illegal side job, etc.).

    I like that reasoning.

    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them a whole lot especially the ones with mint marks.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is gold, and a coin...I like it... :D;) Just something about gold coins that always gets my attention... Cheers, RickO

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like these coins. They're funky and have a certain gravitas just like an ugly Christmas sweater.

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  • PQueuePQueue Posts: 901 ✭✭✭

    I like them in unmolested Mint State a lot, particularly half eagles.
    Relative to the (3) most common preceding $5 types (Draped Bust Heraldic Eagle, Capped Bust Large Bust, Capped Bust Fat Head Large Diameter), the Classic Head $5 are relatively under valued in true uncirculated, particularly at MS63. PCGS pops & $ as follows:
    TYPE___________________Total UNC______MS63______MS64______MS65 & higher____PCGS MS63$
    Heraldic Eagle _____________1,017________268________148_________13_________________$30,000
    Capped Bust Lg Bust_________888________252________221_________33_________________$23,500
    Fat Head_____________________466________125________132_________27_________________$25,000
    Classic Head_________________529________106________121_________18_________________$12,500

  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2019 9:50PM

    I like the series and collected both $2.50 and $5.00, completed the Redbook set of half eagles and about half of the die marriages. I actually had a PCGS Registry set of the $5's.

    William Kneass engraved the Classically-inspired design, and these were the first US gold coins to circulate extensively, which is why there are few true MS coins.

    They are the earliest US gold series that can be completed without a fortune, although the scarce C and D Mints are in high demand and relatively expensive. The majority of all years have been dipped, and while they may seem common in AU they are hard to find original. The first book specializing in CHG is coming, which should create more interest in this under-appreciated series.

    The "Crosslet 4"

    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nysoto said:
    I like the series and collected both $2.50 and $5.00, completed the Redbook set of half eagles and about half of the die marriages. I actually had a PCGS Registry set of the $5's.

    William Kneass engraved the Classically-inspired design, and these were the first US gold coins to circulate extensively, which is why there are few true MS coins.

    They are the earliest US gold series that can be completed without a fortune, although the scarce C and D Mints are in high demand and relatively expensive. The majority of all years have been dipped, and while they may seem common in AU they are hard to find original. The first book specializing in CHG is coming, which should create more interest in this under-appreciated series.

    The "Crosslet 4"

    The Crosslet 4 is a really tough coin! After collecting rare gold for almost 10 years I saw maybe 1-2 during that period and certainly not nice. Recently a wave of them hit, many on HA though still dipped AU’s. Wonder if a hoard was dispersed.

  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭

    I like the Ladies. Finding originals ...very difficult.


    Craig


  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2019 3:52PM

    @Labelman87 said:
    I like the Ladies. Finding originals ...very difficult.


    Nice! XF-45? I love this issue. The Philly mint already had over 40 years to perfect its production of gold coin. This was Charlotte’s first go, and the difference in intricacies between Philadelphia’s product and Charlotte’s is obvious.

    Got Crust....y gold?
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a 38-C 40 CAC I sold to @jonruns. That was a nice coin!

  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Boosibri said:
    I had a 38-C 40 CAC I sold to @jonruns. That was a nice coin!

    Actually I think it is one of the best coins in my collection...and it's a 45...thanks Brian!!

  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2019 5:09PM

    I like em. Short "easy" series. One of my favorites from a while back....

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are on a roll @jonruns!!

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the mintmarked set of these. So hard to find nice. Then add a Crosslet 4 as the philly rep :)

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,765 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think they are pretty interesting and want an example eventually...

  • matt_dacmatt_dac Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I acquired and sold higher graded examples but this one was my favorite that I kept as a type:

  • YorkshiremanYorkshireman Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is my example. I have actually decided to sell it as dark side silver coins have been calling to me all year.
    It is now for sale on BST. Take a look and make me an offer.


    Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like Classic Head gold. I completed a "Red Book" set of the $2.50 and $5.00 coins a couple of years ago and exhibited them at Winter FUN this year.

    This 1836 $5 would be "Wow!" if didn't have a tiny bit of wear. It was struck as an MS-67. Of course if it were an MS-67, I could not afford to own it. It is now in an MS-61 holder.


    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This series has always perplexed me. It seems that from 35-45, the coins are attractive but then along come the 50s and welll...... not so.
    55 seems variable and 58 makes the cut.
    Weird. Maybe just me.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,840 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    This series has always perplexed me. It seems that from 35-45, the coins are attractive but then along come the 50s and welll...... not so.
    55 seems variable and 58 makes the cut.
    Weird. Maybe just me.

    I am the opposite. Almost none of the coins that are graded VF-35 to EF-45 please me. Usually the coin has to get at least an AU-55 or better to get into my collection.

    All of these coins are very scarce to rare in striict Mint State. Few people could afford to collect them in those days, and there were few active collectors in America at that time.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • LJenkins11LJenkins11 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like these coins, they are old and they are gold.


  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

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