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I finally found a 1921 Philadelphia for my set ****GRADE POSTED****
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Please feel free to guess the grade and/or tell me what you think.
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947)
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I love it!
62/3 ?
If not, the sweetest 58+ on the planet.
Well done!
Holy wow! Congrats on that!! Looks fantastic. Is the luster blazing?
Very nice!!
Photos are a little hazy for grading, but I think they gave it a bump to 64, because of the original surfaces and luster, especially if it's in a newer holder.
AU58 but probably in an MS holder. Nice strong date.
I always find it interesting how the 1921 WLH have very similar annealment and surface texturing as a lot of the 1921 P$ that are from the supposed proof dies. Thats a beaut 21 and similar to what Id like to add to my 1921 set some day.
Looks like a 64 to me, nice and original.
I'm also at 58 but wouldn't be surprised to see it in a 62 holder!
Great 58. Probably in a MS holder.
Very nice coin. I will say 64.
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I have no clue of grade but it is a beautiful coin. One of the prettiest coins I have seen in a while. If it grades a 58 I would love to see a legit 64-65
Nice original skin. Cost wise I am guessing your splurged on an AU58 coin but looks wise it appears mintstate!
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Looks like a 63-64 to me from pic. Good strike on thumb.
Tough date. I am going to guess 63 but I would like better photos for luster.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
I'm going to change my opinion. I'm going with AU58+!
I'm in the '3' camp....but a 4 wouldn't surprise me.
These aren't very common looking like that, you know ?
All of the above
Latin American Collection
MS63
I've seen common Walkers get straight graded as mint state with rub on the breast so I'm going with MS 64 on this difficult coin.
Looks like a 64 to me, if the slight haze can be removed, a 65 wouldn't shock me. Great looking walker.
Your second set of photos shows nice luster.
I don’t know what is going on below UNI and SES/above the eagle. I assume it is just reflection/no issue.
Liberty’s head has nice detail for an early issue. Nice sun. Right field very clean.
The reverse is lovely. Eagle’s wing feathers are distraction free.
I wanted to post this prior to viewing any other opinions here, so this is a cut and paste job from Word.
First scroll through, thought 65.
After long analysis, think 64+.
Reverse is so so nice, my final answer is 65.
Beautiful half dollar!!!
good looking coin
the legs look undisturbed. I am in 63-64 camp
edit to say: Congrats!
ms62
ms 65
64+.
Congratulations
I just had a '47 graded to a 66 and yours looks better than mine, so 66+
Very nice WLH....Really hard to grade from those pictures, so hazy. I will play it safe and wait for the answer
Cheers, RickO
64
im in the ms 64 camp as well
I agree with MS64. Noice!
+1 Congrats @Walkerfan ...... how long did it take to finally seize her?
Sweet!!!!
Beautiful, congrats on the find.
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The coin is fresh. I researched the provenance. It's been off the market since 2009, when the Calvin collection was sold. It's been part of the Ozark collection for the past 10 years, now. Other NGC early Walkers from the Calvin collection were: a 1916 63, 1917 64, 1918 65, 1919 65, 1920 65 and 1928-S 65. All looked to be very original. The rest of the early ones were all PCGS.
The 1921 has the second lowest mintage in the entire Walker series at 246,000. In 65, the NGC Census is 31 with only 2 finer and no 65 + examples. The PCGS Population is 54 with 7 MS 65+ coins and only 4 finer.
Luster is great on this piece, which is tough to find on an early Walker, and any discoloration that you see on the breast, etc. likely came from toning during storage such as through contact with a paper 2 X 2. When I scope it with my 10x loupe, in hand, I can't see any disturbance just minor toning but no luster breaks.
I know that some of you guys don't like NGC but I really don't think that they would be that wrong on this level. This is not an AU coin IMHO.
But despite all that and third-party grading aside, which is irrelevant to me, my personal opinion on the grade is at least MS 64 + . It has good luster, originality, surface preservation (that right field looks really good). It's better than most 64 coins that I've seen from either service. The obverse strike, though not 100% complete, is well above average.
Thank you to everyone who commented and played GTG.
“I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947)
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Congrats. Nice coin.
I would try a crossover myself. Nice coin! the 58 guess's were silly in my opinion.
Congrats. Very nice Cha-Ching...
I guess my guess doesn't even exist yet
I disagree! You should have a look at a few of my 58+ Barber Half's!
PS Some have cost me more than 65's!
Heckuva coin, Jeff!
Darrell....If they look like that they should not be in 58 holders. The coin in the OP here is definitely MS unless the pic is hiding something. But I don't think that is the case or you would have guessed UNC also.
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I'm going by what looks like obvious rub on the breast in the picture. Of course my opinion could change in hand. Actually it has since Walkerfan discussed it!
Like the slab photo better than the others and like the coin. I wish I could talk you into having Todd (or MessyDesk or TomB or someone else on that level) photograph your set someday. Your set is deserving.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
I like the ‘21 Walker, A LOT!
Good luck on the crossover
Nice coin
Re: the AU guesses. I think the price guide and population reports for tougher coins automatically create some conservative guesses.
If someone posts a gem 84-S Morgan for instance. It could be a stone cold gem but guessers are going to call it an AU58 until proven otherwise so they start with that bias and look for any tiny area on the coin that supports it. On the flip side a gem 81-S Morgan is posted guesses start with the bias that it's an easy gem date and you'll never see an AU guess because AU58 81-S' barely exist. *Just went and checked actually and it's crazy looking at their pop reports. In 62-63-64-65-66 there are a total of around 200,000 81-S' graded, in all of AU there are only 840.
Okay I got way off topic, meant to just say amazing coin and congrats on the pickup and GTG threads involve a lot of bias.
BEAUTIFUL '21!!!
Imagine this will cross with no issue.
Superb strike!!
Thanks for sharing. Please post if you cross this over.
'21 Walker is a desirable coin?
All this talk about crossing this coin is just total nonsense IMHO ...............are you people crazy?
Great coin in a great holder Walkerfan!
Crossing this coin is a major crap shot. Do you preserve the old holder (if that's even possible) and send it in raw? Or do you send it in as is for hopeful clarity of the situation at stake? Or should it even matter?