The Stud turned into a Dud

Moonman · July 12, 2019 11:34AM

What player did you go all in on ? You were sure he was a future HOFer, bought a ton of his cards. Now they are in a commons bin. Mine was Todd Heap, TE out of Arizona state, I thought he was going to be the next great TE. Dud might be a little harsh for him but his cards are not on anybody's radar now. Tell me your biggest dream turned nightmare

JakeR2234 · July 12, 2019 11:39AM

Rashaan Salaam

RIP

Moonman · July 12, 2019 11:40AM

As a Bears fan I also felt that one deeply. RIP

GreenSneakers · July 12, 2019 11:41AM

The guy that’s been building a 83T set in PSA 10 by ripping wax the last few years might own more Dave Hostetler rookies than I do. Might.

LarkinCollector · July 12, 2019 11:47AM

Marquis Grissom, back in the day. I was always horrible at prospecting, so probably haven't tried since 1990. In collections I've purchased, some of the worst were significant quantities of Danny Tartabull and Isaiah Rider.

nam812 · July 12, 2019 11:48AM

Pete Incaviglia, Sam Horn, Billy Ripken.......I'm stopping there because the tears are messing up my keyboard.

Moonman · July 12, 2019 11:51AM

Oh man! I remember the Ripkin hype. Ouch. Only famous because of a swear word

Huskies11 · July 12, 2019 11:57AM

Tim Couch. Rick Asadoorian. Harold Miner.

doubledragon · July 12, 2019 12:12PM

Too many to count. So many no.1 overall picks in every sport have gone bust.

minnesotahusker · July 12, 2019 12:20PM

Gregg Jefferies and Eric Anthony

1957Braves · July 12, 2019 12:54PM

Jerome Walton and Kevin Maas.

jfkheat · July 12, 2019 12:58PM

Mark Grace, Greg Jefferies and Kevin Elster

Moonman · July 12, 2019 1:19PM

Cedric Benson was another one for me. I thought he was going to be so good and .........

DBesse27 · July 12, 2019 1:35PM

Never prospected with cards. Only players I accumulated were established stars or retired guys.

ihurley1 · July 12, 2019 2:24PM

Todd Van Poppel

ihurley1 · July 12, 2019 2:27PM

And Kevin Mass. I have hundreds of both
Of their RCs in storage. Probably make good kindling.

esquiresports · July 12, 2019 2:31PM

Ruben Sierra, Juan Gonzalez, Albert Belle. Typically waited a few years until I had confidence in players. I was projecting Gonzalez with a real shot at 700 HRs.

rmh111985 · July 12, 2019 3:33PM

Todd Van Poppel was the guy for me and my older brother. Also tried to load up on Ben Greive, Rusty Greer, Aaron Sele and Jason Bere when they were up and coming.

Estil · July 12, 2019 4:06PM

@rmh111985 said:
Todd Van Poppel was the guy for me and my older brother. Also tried to load up on Ben Greive, Rusty Greer, Aaron Sele and Jason Bere when they were up and coming.

This reminds me of a Baseball Cards magazine from 1991 (it had Mattingly on the cover) that had top ten Hot and C-C-C-Cold lists. For number one on the C-C-C-Cold list it read:

While Todd Van Poppel laughs all the way to the bank, [this team] are stuck with a prospect who will never become a major league star. This [high] draft pick must fulfill a lot of expectations before his cards get Hot.

Pretty harsh and chilly words eh? It was this guy...

JoeBanzai · July 12, 2019 4:10PM

Tried three different Minnesota Twins, not investing, but hoping they would become great. Marty Cordova, David McCarty and Chuck Knoblauch.

Knobhead actually looked like he was going to be a superstar, and then he lost his mind.

BPorter26 · July 12, 2019 4:29PM

Billy Owens

dan89 · July 12, 2019 4:49PM

Nomar Garciaparra, loaded up on him and lost my shirt

mccardguy1 · July 12, 2019 5:31PM

J.D. Drew

I owned a card shop at the time and guys were ripping the crap out of Leaf Signature Series one auto per pack product and leaving the common cards with me as they didn't care about them. J.D.Drew hype went crazy, those cards went to a hundred bucks and I made a bundle on cards that cost me nothing. I asked my two big spenders if they wanted me to compensate them in some way for selling their common cards for a bundle and they told me I was the one who took the time to find them in the pile of "crap" as they called it, I should reap the rewards.

Thankfully I didnt have much into Drew because his rocket fizzled out real fast.

ahopkins · July 12, 2019 6:02PM

@mccardguy1 said:
J.D. Drew

Dear J.D. Drew,

Snidely,
A Phillies Fan

Downtown1974 · July 12, 2019 6:24PM

Wally Joyner and Mike Greenwell

Stone193 · July 12, 2019 7:01PM

On the FB side...

1998 - Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning were top dogs.

I was pulling Leaf RCs at a faster pace than Manning.

We all know how that went.

Stone193 · July 12, 2019 7:10PM

I joined the Classic Club just to get this guy's autograph.

wrestlingcardking · July 12, 2019 8:06PM

i was here to read PWCC as the answer......

in all seriousness wouldn't Kevin Maas be one? :-)

CdnOsfan · July 12, 2019 8:27PM

3 Orioles pitchers (where I went wrong)
-Matt Riley
-Sidney Ponson
-Dylan Bundy

80sOPC · July 12, 2019 8:36PM

Went long on Owen Nolan

ldferg · July 12, 2019 8:42PM

Ben McDonald and Chris Hammond

Stone193 · July 12, 2019 9:20PM

For those who were collecting in the early 90s...

Remember when we were buying stacks or "bricks" of cards?

This is from an old thread of mine...

A stack of Cal Eldred anyone?

rmh111985 · July 12, 2019 10:20PM

On the hockey side, Patrik Stefan was the 1st overall pick in 1999, and the first ever pick for the (now relocated) Atlanta Thrashers. I pulled a SPX autographed rookie in 2 packs back in 1999, booking at I think $100 at the time, and turned down $75 straight up cash at a card show a few months later. I still have that card in my collection......

Estil · July 13, 2019 6:08AM

@mccardguy1 said:
J.D. Drew

I owned a card shop at the time and guys were ripping the crap out of Leaf Signature Series one auto per pack product and leaving the common cards with me as they didn't care about them. J.D.Drew hype went crazy, those cards went to a hundred bucks and I made a bundle on cards that cost me nothing. I asked my two big spenders if they wanted me to compensate them in some way for selling their common cards for a bundle and they told me I was the one who took the time to find them in the pile of "crap" as they called it, I should reap the rewards.

Thankfully I didnt have much into Drew because his rocket fizzled out real fast.

I think there was a Readers Write letter in a basketball Beckett where a hobby store owner was quite saddened by customers who would open packs only for Jordan and just leave the other guys there....the dealer pointing out that they could sold/traded some of those other guys for a Jordan.

And I take it you don't mean this Drew right?

https://youtu.be/L3wMesI8aiw

HighGradeLegends · July 13, 2019 6:15AM

Chris davis

Estil · July 13, 2019 6:21AM

@Stone193 said:
On the FB side...

1998 - Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning were top dogs.

I was pulling Leaf RCs at a faster pace than Manning.

We all know how that went.

Well it can't be helped, I mean the ones who are at or near top draft picks are the ones people expect to be the next great superstars...sure it doesn't work out nearly as often as you'd think it should but what else can you do? I mean it's not anyone picked at or near the bottom of the draft ever amounted to anything...

(1988, 62nd round, picked dead last)

(1985, 22nd round)

(1978, 20th round)

onefasttalon · July 13, 2019 9:39AM

I might know of another guy

As a committed Reds fan, in recent years names like Billy Hamilton, Tony Cingrani, & Devin Mesoraco strike a cord.

ElMagoStrikeZone · July 13, 2019 10:06AM

1919 Chicago White Sox team sets. Damn.

doubledragon · July 13, 2019 10:28AM

It's weird how a lot of players drafted in the first round go bust, while a lot of players drafted in later rounds end up in the HOF.

prgsdw · July 13, 2019 10:36AM

Bobby Bonilla and Ruben Sierra.

Stone193 · July 13, 2019 11:51AM

@Estil said:

@Stone193 said:
On the FB side...

1998 - Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning were top dogs.

I was pulling Leaf RCs at a faster pace than Manning.

We all know how that went.

Well it can't be helped, I mean the ones who are at or near top draft picks are the ones people expect to be the next great superstars...sure it doesn't work out nearly as often as you'd think it should but what else can you do? I mean it's not anyone picked at or near the bottom of the draft ever amounted to anything...

(1988, 62nd round, picked dead last)

(1985, 22nd round)

(1978, 20th round)

Good info Estil.

My reference to Ryan being high on the food chain was not meant to be connected with future productivity - was more of a side note.

We know of many players who were overlooked and became "players" in their sport.

Huskies11 · July 13, 2019 2:39PM

@prgsdw said:
Bobby Bonilla and Ruben Sierra.

Hey now, Bobby Bonilla is still getting paid annually by the Mets to this day so he did pretty well for himself.

Estil · July 13, 2019 3:07PM

@Huskies11 said:

@prgsdw said:
Bobby Bonilla and Ruben Sierra.

Hey now, Bobby Bonilla is still getting paid annually by the Mets to this day so he did pretty well for himself.

How was he able to get that kind of deal? Whoever actually agreed to it must've been beyond nuts...

lahmejoon · July 13, 2019 3:30PM

@Huskies11 said:
Rick Asadoorian

An Armenian?!? Sadly, we're not known for our athletic ability. :'(

Huskies11 · July 13, 2019 3:30PM

@Estil said:

@Huskies11 said:

@prgsdw said:
Bobby Bonilla and Ruben Sierra.

Hey now, Bobby Bonilla is still getting paid annually by the Mets to this day so he did pretty well for himself.

How was he able to get that kind of deal? Whoever actually agreed to it must've been beyond nuts...

My understanding is the Wilpons had a good deal of money with Bernie Madoff. His annual returns (10-15%) were consistently greater than the annuity yield that they were to pay Bonilla (8% of the notional value they owed him) so theoretically they were making a spread on the deal. However, those returns were obviously fictitious and the Mets lost tons of money. I don't think there are many deferred compensation type of deals of that type done anymore. Annuity type payments don't actually make sense for the player either for the most part.

The whole thing is one of the most Mets stories ever.

perkdog · July 13, 2019 3:33PM

Pete Incaviglia

doubledragon · July 13, 2019 3:47PM

I can't stand Bernie Madoff. He hurt so many good people. Hey Bernie, you missed a few spots jerk.

perkdog · July 13, 2019 3:54PM

@doubledragon said:
I can't stand Bernie Madoff. He hurt so many good people. Hey Bernie, you missed a few spots jerk.

That guy is on many a hit list I’m sure

doubledragon · July 13, 2019 4:01PM

@perkdog said:

@doubledragon said:
I can't stand Bernie Madoff. He hurt so many good people. Hey Bernie, you missed a few spots jerk.

That guy is on many a hit list I’m sure

If big bubba doesn't get him first.

perkdog · July 13, 2019 5:40PM

@doubledragon said:

@perkdog said:

@doubledragon said:
I can't stand Bernie Madoff. He hurt so many good people. Hey Bernie, you missed a few spots jerk.

That guy is on many a hit list I’m sure

If big bubba doesn't get him first.

Nope they couldn’t care less about white collar crimes. Sex crimes, cell thief’s and rats are the ones who Bubba deals with

Darin · July 13, 2019 6:28PM

Aaron Judge.
But on the bright side, at least there aren't 10,000 pics of his baseball cards on this forum daily anymore.

The Stud turned into a Dud

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