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The Stud turned into a Dud
Moonman
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What player did you go all in on ? You were sure he was a future HOFer, bought a ton of his cards. Now they are in a commons bin. Mine was Todd Heap, TE out of Arizona state, I thought he was going to be the next great TE. Dud might be a little harsh for him but his cards are not on anybody's radar now. Tell me your biggest dream turned nightmare
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Rashaan Salaam
RIP
PC Walter Payton - Bear Down!
As a Bears fan I also felt that one deeply. RIP
The guy that’s been building a 83T set in PSA 10 by ripping wax the last few years might own more Dave Hostetler rookies than I do. Might.
Marquis Grissom, back in the day. I was always horrible at prospecting, so probably haven't tried since 1990. In collections I've purchased, some of the worst were significant quantities of Danny Tartabull and Isaiah Rider.
Pete Incaviglia, Sam Horn, Billy Ripken.......I'm stopping there because the tears are messing up my keyboard.
Oh man! I remember the Ripkin hype. Ouch. Only famous because of a swear word
Tim Couch. Rick Asadoorian. Harold Miner.
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Too many to count. So many no.1 overall picks in every sport have gone bust.
Gregg Jefferies and Eric Anthony
Jerome Walton and Kevin Maas.
Mark Grace, Greg Jefferies and Kevin Elster
Cedric Benson was another one for me. I thought he was going to be so good and .........
Never prospected with cards. Only players I accumulated were established stars or retired guys.
Yaz Master Set
#1 Gino Cappelletti master set
#1 John Hannah master set
Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox
Todd Van Poppel
And Kevin Mass. I have hundreds of both
Of their RCs in storage. Probably make good kindling.
Ruben Sierra, Juan Gonzalez, Albert Belle. Typically waited a few years until I had confidence in players. I was projecting Gonzalez with a real shot at 700 HRs.
Todd Van Poppel was the guy for me and my older brother. Also tried to load up on Ben Greive, Rusty Greer, Aaron Sele and Jason Bere when they were up and coming.
Main collecting focus is Patrick Roy playing days 85/86-02/03, expect 1/1, National/All-Star stamped cards.PC Completion: 2,548/2,952; 86.31% My Patrick Roy PC Website:https://proy33collector.weebly.com
This reminds me of a Baseball Cards magazine from 1991 (it had Mattingly on the cover) that had top ten Hot and C-C-C-Cold lists. For number one on the C-C-C-Cold list it read:
While Todd Van Poppel laughs all the way to the bank, [this team] are stuck with a prospect who will never become a major league star. This [high] draft pick must fulfill a lot of expectations before his cards get Hot.
Pretty harsh and chilly words eh? It was this guy...
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
Tried three different Minnesota Twins, not investing, but hoping they would become great. Marty Cordova, David McCarty and Chuck Knoblauch.
Knobhead actually looked like he was going to be a superstar, and then he lost his mind.
Billy Owens
Nomar Garciaparra, loaded up on him and lost my shirt
J.D. Drew
I owned a card shop at the time and guys were ripping the crap out of Leaf Signature Series one auto per pack product and leaving the common cards with me as they didn't care about them. J.D.Drew hype went crazy, those cards went to a hundred bucks and I made a bundle on cards that cost me nothing. I asked my two big spenders if they wanted me to compensate them in some way for selling their common cards for a bundle and they told me I was the one who took the time to find them in the pile of "crap" as they called it, I should reap the rewards.
Thankfully I didnt have much into Drew because his rocket fizzled out real fast.
Dear J.D. Drew,
Snidely,
A Phillies Fan
Andy
Wally Joyner and Mike Greenwell
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
On the FB side...
1998 - Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning were top dogs.
I was pulling Leaf RCs at a faster pace than Manning.
We all know how that went.
I joined the Classic Club just to get this guy's autograph.
i was here to read PWCC as the answer......
in all seriousness wouldn't Kevin Maas be one? :-)
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
3 Orioles pitchers (where I went wrong)
-Matt Riley
-Sidney Ponson
-Dylan Bundy
Went long on Owen Nolan
Ben McDonald and Chris Hammond
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
For those who were collecting in the early 90s...
Remember when we were buying stacks or "bricks" of cards?
This is from an old thread of mine...
A stack of Cal Eldred anyone?
On the hockey side, Patrik Stefan was the 1st overall pick in 1999, and the first ever pick for the (now relocated) Atlanta Thrashers. I pulled a SPX autographed rookie in 2 packs back in 1999, booking at I think $100 at the time, and turned down $75 straight up cash at a card show a few months later. I still have that card in my collection......
Main collecting focus is Patrick Roy playing days 85/86-02/03, expect 1/1, National/All-Star stamped cards.PC Completion: 2,548/2,952; 86.31% My Patrick Roy PC Website:https://proy33collector.weebly.com
I think there was a Readers Write letter in a basketball Beckett where a hobby store owner was quite saddened by customers who would open packs only for Jordan and just leave the other guys there....the dealer pointing out that they could sold/traded some of those other guys for a Jordan.
And I take it you don't mean this Drew right?
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
Chris davis
Well it can't be helped, I mean the ones who are at or near top draft picks are the ones people expect to be the next great superstars...sure it doesn't work out nearly as often as you'd think it should but what else can you do? I mean it's not anyone picked at or near the bottom of the draft ever amounted to anything...
(1988, 62nd round, picked dead last)
(1985, 22nd round)
(1978, 20th round)
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
I might know of another guy
As a committed Reds fan, in recent years names like Billy Hamilton, Tony Cingrani, & Devin Mesoraco strike a cord.
ALWAYS Looking for Chris Sabo cards!
1919 Chicago White Sox team sets. Damn.
It's weird how a lot of players drafted in the first round go bust, while a lot of players drafted in later rounds end up in the HOF.
Bobby Bonilla and Ruben Sierra.
The Doomsday Collection
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Good info Estil.
My reference to Ryan being high on the food chain was not meant to be connected with future productivity - was more of a side note.
We know of many players who were overlooked and became "players" in their sport.
Hey now, Bobby Bonilla is still getting paid annually by the Mets to this day so he did pretty well for himself.
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How was he able to get that kind of deal? Whoever actually agreed to it must've been beyond nuts...
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
An Armenian?!? Sadly, we're not known for our athletic ability.
My understanding is the Wilpons had a good deal of money with Bernie Madoff. His annual returns (10-15%) were consistently greater than the annuity yield that they were to pay Bonilla (8% of the notional value they owed him) so theoretically they were making a spread on the deal. However, those returns were obviously fictitious and the Mets lost tons of money. I don't think there are many deferred compensation type of deals of that type done anymore. Annuity type payments don't actually make sense for the player either for the most part.
The whole thing is one of the most Mets stories ever.
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Pete Incaviglia
I can't stand Bernie Madoff. He hurt so many good people. Hey Bernie, you missed a few spots jerk.
That guy is on many a hit list I’m sure
If big bubba doesn't get him first.
Nope they couldn’t care less about white collar crimes. Sex crimes, cell thief’s and rats are the ones who Bubba deals with
Aaron Judge.
But on the bright side, at least there aren't 10,000 pics of his baseball cards on this forum daily anymore.