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Russian Collusion
Broadstruck
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Russia is now doing it's part on eBay to deceive buyers with non copy marked replica coins.
All these sold for under $50 shipped and there are SO many 1883 fake Hawaiian coinage listed it's just too much to report.
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I wonder how many are headed for the flea market circuit?
Russia or China?
The sellers may be using Russian addresses, but isn't the source likely China?
Labor is cheaper.
Very sad. Seems like this has been going on for such a long time now and is getting worse. It doesn’t seem like there’s any concerted effort to deal with this.
Is this kind of like the War on Drugs where it will keep coming as long as people here buy them?
Those things look like Chinese products. At any rate its all garbage regardless of the source.
I thought that collectors usually wanted items like the Lafayette Dollar and the Hawaiian coins in higher grades. Who is buying this garbage that looks like low grade struff? Also these coins were usually of more interest to advanced collectors, not the casual kind. How many advanced collectors are falling for this?
Agree these like like crude copies often coming from China, but garbage no matter where they are from.
As for collectors falling for these, I wonder how many are buying from foreign sources versus buying from US middlemen sellers with full knowledge of what they are selling.
There’s the flea marker comment above and Americans have been arrested for importing and selling fakes.
Very sad. Thanks for pointing it out.
It always was and sad to say always will be a fact that there are people who want to make money the easy way .... dishonestly!
plenty
It’s amazing to me how these international counterfeiters find all these niches for exploitation. I wonder how many other kinds of collectibles are being targeted... and what backgrounds the fraudsters come from.
Rusky hawked Chink crap.
bob
Why not make thousands if not millions when the authorities don't care about enforcing the laws?
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They don’t know how to stop this stuff. Don’t have a clue, pure and simple.
The Lafayette with no mention of being fake was originally started at $6.99 opening bid.
The seller changed it to a BIN while I reported it which did nothing.
Since it was the only fake up as an auction I feel someone could have been out a couple hundred.
I am going to keep complaining and hopefully someone with better connections than I have (ANA?) will convince the FTC to prosecute some of the US sellers of this crap. If all the collectors would join forces, we as a group could pressure them to do something.
In the mean time I will continue to play Whack-a-Mole getting the ones I find removed from Ebay.
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"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 fake comemoratives that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our collectors."
Might want to report to the Industry Council for Tangible Assets
https://www.ictaonline.org/ they have been involved in some of the latest counterfeiting busts.
It maybe real , did you try giving it a wipe? Like with a cloth?
That has to be nominated for post of the year. Your timing is prescient.
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Thanks for the heads-up !!!
These coins are more aptly termed 'deception'.... not collusion... two different things. Cheers, RickO
This is no more a detriment to the hobby than our host slabbing obvious AT coins by the thousands.
the difference is that AT coins are authentic...at least last time I checked.
But, joke aside.
some time ago I suggested that all US citizens and members in coin forums should write their Congress people and the CIA and whoever else in Govt. they can.
demanding that Border officers are more strict with fakes and that you will be prosecuted if you sell fakes, knowingly or not. the same goes for Canadians.. wright to your MP and any other MP.
In Canada mail to the elected or appointed Government officials (MP's and Senators) , is free if sent via Canada post.
to their Ottawa address. I do not know if it is free in the US to write to you congress person.
However, this campaign should be directed to EVERY MP (Canada) or congress person, not just your own rep.
the result would most likely be instant or close to it and laws will be passed and directions go out.
Just imagine if every rep will get several thousand of letters asking the same thing.....can you imagine this happening for a few weeks in a row..???
To go political is the ONLY way to go, demanding laws will be enforced.
But, be honest people, most of us rather take the attitude: Oh, that does not affect me, why should I spend my time on that?
well, we could do up a simple form letter .....NOT spam if addresses to a person.
So, exercise your option and keep on buying fakes and stop complaining, **OR do something about it!!
Our host has asked for proof. Has any been provided?
Also seems like a lot toners are originating in the US, with many coming out of Florida.