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Most outrageous parroted wives tales about coin collecting?

WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

Some statements that get tossed around about coin collecting, that to me, ring kinda hollow and untrue, but I hear them all the time. Blanket statements like “all the good coins have already been sent for grading” and “most have been to CAC now” are a few that bug me. I’ve heard that any OGH still around is overgraded or it would have been cracked by now. Things like this get said enough times and many start to believe them and repeat them.

What are some other good ones you hear a lot that just aren’t necessarily true or factual?

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  • Mdcoincollector2003Mdcoincollector2003 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indian head nickels and sitting liberty. 😦

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Mint, whether way back years ago or recently, purposely make error coins so the workers either can keep or distribute. :D

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  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There’s a few good ones!

    How about, All blue copper is MS 70’d...... :|

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Of course it's worth a big premium!!! It's got a CAC sticker!!!"

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  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my all time favorites is “old” cleaning, haha

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    If you dip it too many times you will go blind

    m

    I only dip it until I need glasses. ;)

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Actually, if used correctly that is a very good description. Many like this have retoned over the years and are now entombed in our host's holders!

    @WildIdea said:
    One of my all time favorites is “old” cleaning, haha

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MPLs were made in 1917.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    If you dip it too many times you will go blind

    m

    You'll dip your eye out! :p

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 7, 2019 9:48PM

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Toned gold=iodine.

  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Actually, if used correctly that is a very good description. Many like this have retoned over the years and are now entombed in our host's holders!

    @WildIdea said:
    One of my all time favorites is “old” cleaning, haha

    Could very well be true and absolutely the case, if like you said, used correctly, but old doesn’t make it less cleaned and toning can be helped. I mostly see it as a cover story for a formerly original or a problem coin. This gets way overused and parroted as a selling technique, IMO.

    The use of old in general is immediately suspect to me. Old collection, old find, old cleaning, old spot removal, old grading standards, old pricing, old you name it. When someone says old in front of a sentence description, it’s basically smoke and mirrors. Take old out of the sentence and you’ll be able to evaluate the coin for what it is. Old alone doesn’t offer or add any factual timeline, relevance, value or perspective.

  • IntueorIntueor Posts: 310 ✭✭✭✭

    I'll pass, it's a "low end" 67.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 7:34AM

    I told paralegal friend about CAC. She thought it crazy, zany, especially material with huge premiums. She said “why would anyone pay that with down market?”

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That you can strike perfect high relief St. Gauden's coins from rusty collapsing dies. :wink:

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    "Of course it's worth a big premium!!! It's got a CAC sticker!!!"

    Worse, almost all coins are priced in with this imaginary premium.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ARCO said:

    @PerryHall said:
    "Of course it's worth a big premium!!! It's got a CAC sticker!!!"

    Worse, almost all coins are priced in with this imaginary premium.

    True but it's particularly egregious when there's a CAC sticker involved. :#

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  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the posts everyone. I'm enjoying the comments. Serious tone of some but the funny ones are the best. The mustard shirt one had me rolling.

    How about, For a profit or at least break even, it's best to hold on for the long term.......I hear this a lot, and it might not hurt if your gonna simply consign them to auction at some point, but I see coins move around a coin show all weekend and likely everyone made a little. It's more about knowing your market, who the buyers are, where in the food chain you bought it and where you can take it from there. Hoping the market will move in your favor over time is just guessing.

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2019 3:27PM

    A penny is 1 cent, a nickel 5 cents, etc. Any more is “non-cents” :o

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Classic Commemoratives were not ment to circulate. You will not find any circulated ones. Common comments from dealers at shows

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you inherit a stamp collection it's probably worthless, on the other hand, an inherited coin collection is big money.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only thing that counts is today. I'd like to hear the billionaires like Ray Dalio and Bill Gates whose father was into pms and their take on numismatics; both my brother and Gary North said to get out of it.

  • jonrunsjonruns Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "those hairlines are just from an old cleaning with a chamois cloth!!!"

  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    It must be valuable, look how old it is!

    It must be valuable, I've never seen one like it!

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Every coin should be slabbed!"

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  • SliderGuySliderGuy Posts: 27 ✭✭

    Coins in da water, sharks in da water. Farewell my Spanish lady😱

    AU55/MS62 My favorites.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2019 1:10PM

    That it’s a symptom of AS (Aspergers Syndrome).

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,778 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ARCO said:

    @PerryHall said:
    "Of course it's worth a big premium!!! It's got a CAC sticker!!!"

    Worse, almost all coins are priced in with this imaginary premium.

    Even when the coin in the holder falls short of the grade.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,778 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2019 11:30AM

    George Washington gave up his silverware to supply the silver that was used to make the 1792 half dismes.

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  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 11, 2019 9:32AM

    @BillJones said:

    Even when the coin in the holder falls short of the grade.

    What cracks me up are coins with a CAC that are uglier and skankier than a comparable coin without the CAC (both are same grade PCGS) but that have the CAC coin with a 20% premium or more.

    I just bought a really nice 1904 $20 PCGS MS64+. The CAC version was $300 more and for that price, you also got a few more nicks and ticks on the face of the coin....Wow, what a deal.

    This could be the new slogan: CAC is Wack. Ok, that doesn't roll off the tongue quite like I thought. :)

  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    Most outrageous wives tale about coin collecting is that wives know how much husbands spend on coin collecting ;)

    Aint that the truth!

  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    Something that’s always bothered me is the belief that the PCGS Graders are out to get you.

    Not the case people.

    Also the belief that certain people get better grades than other people because of who they are.

    Also not the case people.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "How many were printed?"

  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin came from my grandad’s attic.

  • ReadyFireAimReadyFireAim Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I won't come down in price because I can't keep them in inventory.

    (said before I reminded him that he has had it for over 6 months)

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