1917 standing liberty type 1
Ok so I've had my heart broken already on here lol so I will ask everyone before I decide whether I should buy this one
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I don’t like the look of it but it depends how much it costs.
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Nice-EF/AU coin with significant abrasion along all the high points. You have to decide if the color and condition are to your liking and if the asking price is fair.
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I've never seen one where her head was so ful and actually had a nipple on her breast still, that's why I wanted your opinions, the guy wants 500 for it, it would have to be a 65 to make money on it,,, but I've seen some of theres at a 64 that looks worse than this
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Surfaces are not original as it funky re-toned after having been lightly cleaned at some point.
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damn People cleaning these coins is driving me up the wall lol
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I feel we are being gamed again by the serial poster, but I'll bite. Yes, full nipple.
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Pass!
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Are you referring to me being a serial poster??? Is posting pics and talking not what a forum is intended for??
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@SilverEagle420 said:
I've never seen one where her head was so ful and actually had a nipple on her breast still, that's why I wanted your opinions, the guy wants 500 for it, it would have to be a 65 to make money on it,,, but I've seen some of theres at a 64 that looks worse than this
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@SilverEagle420 said:
I've never seen one where her head was so ful and actually had a nipple on her breast still, that's why I wanted your opinions, the guy wants 500 for it, it would have to be a 65 to make money on it,,, but I've seen some of theres at a 64 that looks worse than thisThere is NO WAY that's a $500 coin! I've seen better heads on a flat beer.
and...
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Pass. I don’t care for the color. You can get these coins with mostly white surfaces that have not been dipped, and that’s the look many collectors prefer. Even if the coin has not been messed with, I don’t think that it is attractive.
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Here's a 17-S AU58FH with a perkier nipple than any I've seen in even MS67FH holders.
The nipple actually touches the acrylic of the standard thickness PCGS slab,
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@SilverEagle420 said:
Are you referring to me being a serial poster??? Is posting pics and talking not what a forum is intended for??Not "a" serial poster. "THE" serial poster. So yes is the correct answer to both your questions.
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Hmm strange how I have 40 posts to your 7000, I dont even see how this is at all relevant to the thread,, all you've come in with is a condescending attitude,, when everyone else here is being helpful
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@SilverEagle420 said:
I've never seen one where her head was so ful and actually had a nipple on her breast still, that's why I wanted your opinions, the guy wants 500 for it, it would have to be a 65 to make money on it,,, but I've seen some of theres at a 64 that looks worse than thisI am not an expert on this series, so someone please correct me or confirm, but I think you are seeing the appearance of the nipple exaggerated by the pattern and location of the toning.
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Posting pix of your coins is ok, posting pix to determine if a coin you re considering for your collection is ok.posting to determine if you can profit from a coin is questionable.
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I wasnt gonna buy it for profit smudge, I jus want a really nice one that not beat, I have post 17 when they put chainmail on her, I want a really nice 16 or 17, but everything I've been gettin according to this community has been cleaned, so I was trying to get some insight cause I apparently have a terrible eye for cleaning
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By "make money" I meant after slab fees I would rather not lose lol sorry
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@SilverEagle420 said:
I've never seen one where her head was so ful and actually had a nipple on her breast still, that's why I wanted your opinions, the guy wants 500 for it, it would have to be a 65 to make money on it,,, but I've seen some of theres at a 64 that looks worse than thisBased on the opinions here, I would say buying this coin to slab'n'flip is not recommended.
If you want it for your collection, you probably could make a better choice according to what I see in the comments. I don't collect these.
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I was trying to find a nice one I can slab cause the 500-1000 for a graded one, but most i find are pretty beat up, this one looked awesome but i have a bad eye lol
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The guy is asking better than 64FH money for it and its not unc and might not even straight grade. I'd never go back to this shop again. You should be able to find a decent raw one for $200.
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I had its sister in my first Dansco.
Found out it was messed with.
But the nipple was what sold me.
And my coin buddy at the time.2 -
@david3142 said:
I don’t like the look of it but it depends how much it costs.Said the dealer. A collector should never utter these words.
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@AMRC said:
@david3142 said:
I don’t like the look of it but it depends how much it costs.Said the dealer. A collector should never utter these words.
What if they're only halfway up the ladder?
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$500 for that raw? NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@clarkbar04 said:
The guy is asking better than 64FH money for it and its not unc and might not even straight grade. I'd never go back to this shop again. You should be able to find a decent raw one for $200.I agree thank you very much every one, I really love this design and I'm jus trying to get a feel for these and walking liberty,, I bought a really nice 41 walking liberty for 15 the other day and I would assume I did ok on that one hahhaha
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If you want a slabbed coin for your collection, pay up a bit and buy one that is already slabbed... believe me, you'll be saving a bunch of money that way and be much happier with the coin you end up with.
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I would pass for the same reasons already given.
You have to ask yourself why a $500 (ask) coin is not in a holder. My answer is that it won't holder at PCGS or NGC.
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@Cameonut said:
I would pass for the same reasons already given.You have to ask yourself why a $500 (ask) coin is not in a holder. My answer is that it won't holder at PCGS or NGC.
There are countless perfectly nice coins (including far more valuable ones), that for various reasons, aren’t in holders. There’s nothing wrong with asking “why?” but it can be a mistake to assume you know the answer.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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@Broadstruck said:
Here's a 17-S AU58FH with a perkier nipple than any I've seen in even MS67FH holders.The nipple actually touches the acrylic of the standard thickness PCGS slab,
Fantastic coin!
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This one is not bad and a 64FH.
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Here is the deal, on that coin. I wanted one also (17 slq T1) I kept my eye opened for one I liked seemed like years before I pulled the trigger. Only because I see one on GC or Herritage that I liked and forget to bid. Then one day a board member listed one on the the BST that I liked done deal nice coin fair price. My point is that coin is not hard to find they are for sale everyday buy one in plastic and don't worry about if it will grade or what it will grade. I guess what I'm saying is you can find a nice one at a fair price all day every day. If your not a pro don't gamble
Martin
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@MFeld said:
@Cameonut said:
I would pass for the same reasons already given.You have to ask yourself why a $500 (ask) coin is not in a holder. My answer is that it won't holder at PCGS or NGC.
There are countless perfectly nice coins (including far more valuable ones), that for various reasons, aren’t in holders. There’s nothing wrong with asking “why?” but it can be a mistake to assume you know the answer.
Good point Mark. I should not have assumed that the coin wouldn't holder, but nonetheless I would not pay $500 for that particular piece.
We all started as grading newbies at one time or another. Years ago, I had a rule that I would not buy a coin over $200 unless it was in a reputable holder. As we all learn (mostly from our mistakes), we get more confident buying raw coins. Best evaluated in hand, harder to pull the trigger from images alone without a return privilege.
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@Cameonut said:
@MFeld said:
@Cameonut said:
I would pass for the same reasons already given.You have to ask yourself why a $500 (ask) coin is not in a holder. My answer is that it won't holder at PCGS or NGC.
There are countless perfectly nice coins (including far more valuable ones), that for various reasons, aren’t in holders. There’s nothing wrong with asking “why?” but it can be a mistake to assume you know the answer.
Good point Mark. I should not have assumed that the coin wouldn't holder, but nonetheless I would not pay $500 for that particular piece.
We all started as grading newbies at one time or another. Years ago, I had a rule that I would not buy a coin over $200 unless it was in a reputable holder. As we all learn (mostly from our mistakes), we get more confident buying raw coins. Best evaluated in hand, harder to pull the trigger from images alone without a return privilege.
I wouldn’t buy it either. And it can be treacherous buying uncertified coins based just on images, no matter how proficient you are at grading.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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The detail on your coin is great! It is a well struck Full Head coin.
The SURFACE isn't so nice. You can buy raw. No problem. The nice stuff takes time and experience to sort out.
Your decision, really. You could really overpay for raw ungraded stuff. That's the only caution I am imparting here.
Keep asking questions. We won't bite.
But sometimes we snarl a little.
Pete
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If you want a standing liberty quarter, you are prepared to drop $500 on one, and everything you suggest is responded to as cleaned, why don't you look at a slabbed one? You can get a killer AU58FH or nicer coin for less than $500.
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I honestly did start looking at slabbed variants,, that was one a friend of mine has and obviously thinks too highly of lol
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With your track record on the raw stuff that you have shown here on the boards, have you thought about just buying one that was already graded? It might save you a headache or two by doing so. If you are trying to buy raw coins to get them graded and hope they are better than what you bought them as then you are traveling down the long dark road of remorse and sorrow.
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The first few I posted were mine, the last couple I was skeptical of so I wanted opinions and I have started lookin at slabs
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@SilverEagle420 said:
I was trying to find a nice one I can slab cause the 500-1000 for a graded one, but most i find are pretty beat up, this one looked awesome but i have a bad eye lolYou don't have a good enough eye to make this work. If you bought 10 coins hoping they would upgrade and be worth the slab fees, you are going to be wrong at least 9 times which means the 10th one would have to be a big win. And based on the two coins you posted here, you might well be wrong 10 of 10 times. The safe way would be to buy a nice one already slabbed.
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You can definitely find a nice one for under $500. This one was under $500 (and it has a mintmark):
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If you are seriously questioning whether or not the SLQ is worth purchasing, you may wish to stick with PCGS or NGC certified coins until you become more familiar with the series. The coin is the opposite of awesome.
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I appreciate all your guys' advice,, we will see when they come back I suppose and I like the coin, i guess when you're a collector it's in the eye of the beholder
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Your coin looks like it was dusted with soot.......and the soot tends to accentuate the devices. Soot would probably blow away, but the dark AT effect does provide an antiqued effect much like is done on walls by interior designers.
No way this coin will ever grade. But might be worth owning for about $150.00.
OINK
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I believe that coin has been artificially darkened to hide wear and cleaning.... Pass on that one. Cheers, RickO
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OK, I like it. But, price dependent. For 100 maybe, 500, now that would require a psych consult....LOL
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65 money for a 50-55 coin?? I don't think so. I wouldn't mind the old cleaning so much since the strike is pretty decent... but I'd prefer it to be "graded" $125...
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I ended up with a 1943 walking liberty pcgs ms 65 for 75, from what I'm seeing uts worth about 85 so I think I did good, thanks for the help guys
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@Broadstruck said:
Here's a 17-S AU58FH with a perkier nipple than any I've seen in even MS67FH holders.The nipple actually touches the acrylic of the standard thickness PCGS slab,
You know you should store it away from the air conditioner and keep it out of the refrigerator, you won't have that problem.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.6
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