@Gazes said:
I agree that in Europe collectors do not seem to understand the US "requirement" of slabbing coins.
Indeed, it is quite possible to buy an expensive coin without having to rely upon a TPG for moral support.
Many, many years ago I deduced that there was a reasonable possibility that a certain person I knew MIGHT possess a 1964 Peace Dollar. I made a sincere offer of $100,000 for the piece, subject only to my visual inspection of it before handing over the payment. As it turned out the person denied having such a coin, and nothing ever happened.
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The coin looks real to me. And also appears to be a specimen, special striking or presentation piece. No matter what you call it, a business strike or otherwise, it was especially prepared which is obvious. Smooth even matte or satin surfaces with not a smidgen or hint of mint frost. The astounding chiseled details all point to a piece that is Indeed something special and perhaps one of a kind.
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The detail on that coin is incredible..... If real, it certainly deserves a place of honor in the WLH coins.....I hope to see more of this coin... one way or the other. Cheers, RickO
Couldn't be real, there would be others, wouldn't there be? Or a one time die pair strike? Regardless, it is the best looking Walker strike I have seen, even though a little odd looking.
Jim
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I find this coin, the divergent opinions and the mystery surrounding this coin endlessly interesting. A few thoughts:
1. At that price, I think it very likely a US dealer bought it.
2. The buyer did that likely because he thought there was a reasonable chance he could get it in a SP holder at PCGS or NGC (CACG did not exist yet).
3. So far, the buyer has not been able to get it in a PC or NGC holder.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
@breakdown said:
I find this coin, the divergent opinions and the mystery surrounding this coin endlessly interesting. A few thoughts:
1. At that price, I think it very likely a US dealer bought it.
2. The buyer did that likely because he thought there was a reasonable chance he could get it in a SP holder at PCGS or NGC (CACG did not exist yet).
3. So far, the buyer has not been able to get it in a PC or NGC holder.
@breakdown said:
I find this coin, the divergent opinions and the mystery surrounding this coin endlessly interesting. A few thoughts:
1. At that price, I think it very likely a US dealer bought it.
2. The buyer did that likely because he thought there was a reasonable chance he could get it in a SP holder at PCGS or NGC (CACG did not exist yet).
3. So far, the buyer has not been able to get it in a PC or NGC holder.
Nice breakdown
I have seen photos of this piecein some old threads with about a 50/50 consensus as to genuine vs counterfeit. My opinion is counterfeit as it just didn't look 'right'. I will go out on a limb as to agree with your opinion that a U.S. dealer or collector rolled the dice at 10K that it may be a specimen piece that likely fetch an easy six figure payday if so. Likely the buyer rolled snake eyes and placed the piece in a cigar box with a notes saying "kick me" as a reminder.
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Indeed, it is quite possible to buy an expensive coin without having to rely upon a TPG for moral support.
Many, many years ago I deduced that there was a reasonable possibility that a certain person I knew MIGHT possess a 1964 Peace Dollar. I made a sincere offer of $100,000 for the piece, subject only to my visual inspection of it before handing over the payment. As it turned out the person denied having such a coin, and nothing ever happened.
Bump....anyone hear anything on this WLH?
No, though I am hoping, and will follow this thread.
The coin looks real to me. And also appears to be a specimen, special striking or presentation piece. No matter what you call it, a business strike or otherwise, it was especially prepared which is obvious. Smooth even matte or satin surfaces with not a smidgen or hint of mint frost. The astounding chiseled details all point to a piece that is Indeed something special and perhaps one of a kind.
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
The detail on that coin is incredible..... If real, it certainly deserves a place of honor in the WLH coins.....I hope to see more of this coin... one way or the other. Cheers, RickO
I'm continuing to follow this thread !!!
As am I. It's a fascinating coin-real or not. But I hope it IS real.
Link to the original thread
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/995161/raw-1933-s-half-just-sold-for-10k-in-czech-auction/p1
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running like a water color in the rain...."
It has to be tooled, if authentic.
Yeah, it was tooled…with a shovel, as the buyer is BURIED!
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My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
I have never seen a Walker with such detail on the devices, and I may have seen a thousand of them, if not more. I'll leave it there.
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"Sou Mangueira......."
Couldn't be real, there would be others, wouldn't there be? Or a one time die pair strike? Regardless, it is the best looking Walker strike I have seen, even though a little odd looking.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I find this coin, the divergent opinions and the mystery surrounding this coin endlessly interesting. A few thoughts:
1. At that price, I think it very likely a US dealer bought it.
2. The buyer did that likely because he thought there was a reasonable chance he could get it in a SP holder at PCGS or NGC (CACG did not exist yet).
3. So far, the buyer has not been able to get it in a PC or NGC holder.
"Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.
Nice breakdown
Smitten with DBLCs.
@hummingbird_coins got it…
Smitten with DBLCs.
He got what?
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My attempt at a double entendre.
Smitten with DBLCs.
I didn’t see him post in reply to your “Nice breakdown” comment.
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I have seen photos of this piecein some old threads with about a 50/50 consensus as to genuine vs counterfeit. My opinion is counterfeit as it just didn't look 'right'. I will go out on a limb as to agree with your opinion that a U.S. dealer or collector rolled the dice at 10K that it may be a specimen piece that likely fetch an easy six figure payday if so. Likely the buyer rolled snake eyes and placed the piece in a cigar box with a notes saying "kick me" as a reminder.
I wonder if Katz was ever contacted to see if the coin was returned for being a fake