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A nice looking 1861 $20 gold AND and 1861 for the fans of "crusty."

BillJonesBillJones Posts: 36,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 21, 2019 4:30AM in U.S. Coin Forum

There is a lot of talk about "crusty gold" here, but frankly I'm not a fan. If the piece is VF or EF, that's part of the territory, but if you looking at Choice AU or better, it really should have an Mint State look to please me.

Here is an 1861 double eagle I bought raw years ago. It's now an NGC AU-58. This is the look that pleases me. The 1861 double eagle is a common date because the Union was looking to pay for the war with hard money in the beginning.


Here is an 1860 for the "crusty fans." Some of the toning marks on this piece don't show in photograph. The grade on this piece is AU-55, CAC. My grade is AU-50, but buying this was a matter of the right price and availability for an exhimbit I'm thinking about starting.


Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them both!

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they would put the CAC sticker over the bag marks, they would look better. :wink:

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a copy of the production order.

    [Courtesy Newman Numismatic Portal, digitized by John Graffeo]

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1861 is a real lookinter.

    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like gold coins... any and all of them... I will say that 1861 is really attractive though... has nice detail and color. Cheers, RickO

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the 1861 is a nice look.

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing wrong with the doubley-doubley no matter how crusty they may be. Congrats!

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
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    CWT1863CWT1863 Posts: 316 ✭✭✭✭

    Very nice! Both are beautiful. Type one liberty Head double eagles are among my favorite federal coin series.

    ANA-LM, CWTS-LM, NBS, TAMS, ANS

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    I have an addiction and collection of double eagles and that my friend is a nice one!

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice, I like them both !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 11,354 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If they would put the CAC sticker over the bag marks, they would look better. :wink:

    Show me a circulated 1860s double eagle without bag marks.

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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 21, 2019 12:01AM

    I like both of them but I think in general there aren’t too many crusty AU 55/ 58’s unless we’re talking about early 19th century, late18th century dates. And I’m not sure your 1860 is exactly what I would call crusty.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,369 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    If they would put the CAC sticker over the bag marks, they would look better. :wink:

    Show me a circulated 1860s double eagle without bag marks.

    It's a CAC joke because it is Bill

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