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Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

I only have sellers images. I am suspicious it has been cleaned, what are your thoughts,

Does this coin look cleaned?

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not from what I can see in the pictures.

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  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all for voting and Mr Feld for the input.
    I bid & I won the auction, and paid for the coin.
    I hope it is original, since it is a ddo fs102 very hard to find and only a few graded.
    I had offered the seller 5x what I paid at auction, if he would have ended early last week. Thems the breaks

    Since I am posting before it arrives, I am at the mercy of Murphy’s Law, but hey it can’t happen twice in a month right...? I defy the jinx!

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like someone tried to remove the black spots on the reverse.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,896 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    Looks like someone tried to remove the black spots on the reverse.

    Yes, it is lighter in those spots, but if they did work on that spot, they didn’t work on it too hard.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it was dipped but not abrasively cleaned, so it is Market acceptable.

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't even know if that's been dipped. It looks to have some decent luster that dip usually diminishes. I don't think it's been cleaned at all.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,652 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think it's been cleaned, at least not abrasively so. I'm not sure if it's been dipped. There's still a bit of luster left, and wouldn't dip have taken care of the diffuse black spot on the reverse??

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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm with Bill Jones on this one. Looks like an attempt at removing the dark spots.

    If the coin were slabbed, based on the pics I would not sticker it no matter what the grade due to that.

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn't think cleaning when seeing the photo, hope it looks good in hand... and remember to not reveal your cherrypicks until you have the coin in hand... been problems with that in the past unfortunately!

    :+1:

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The area at the top of the jacket on the obverse gives me pause, I would look at that area closely when it arrives.

  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am conflicted with sum fine lines to the right of the P. It could be a die clash or unfortunately wizzed

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This year and variety does has a mild die clash. The spike on the chin and a line from above the ribbon on obverse. There are actually several of the spiked chin clashes in 1943, some even have two spikes

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see anything that suggests it was rubbed on or polished up. Chemical cleaning is tough to see in pictures.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @Insider2 said:
    Looks like someone tried to remove the black spots on the reverse.

    Yes, it is lighter in those spots, but if they did work on that spot, they didn’t work on it too hard.

    You and I probably have a difference of opinion with regard to the degree of "spot removals." When you can see an obvious change of color due to the way the hairlines from the cleaning reflect the light, it is no longer "light work." :)

    Additionally, it appears that the "cartwheel" luster that could lighten parts of the surface is NOT in the position of the bright area over the dome.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see no evidence of cleaning (rub, hairlines, abrasions).... Good luck, I hope you are happy with the coin. Cheers, RickO

  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    The rev spots as well as the dark residue about the obv rim look very much like struck-thru polishing compound used in production. BUT I have never seen that stuff on a coin from that era. I have only seen the stuff on a couple IKEs.

    If that is what it is (which I think unlikely, even though it DOES look like it) it is impossible to remove.

    Also, I am unsure whether the polishing gunk precludes a straight grade at a TPG. @segoja may know, as he has seen a vast number of IKEs.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it does not look it from what I can tell

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