Does this coin look cleaned?

Aspie_Rocco · February 20, 2019 5:08PM

I only have sellers images. I am suspicious it has been cleaned, what are your thoughts,

MFeld · February 20, 2019 5:53PM

Not from what I can see in the pictures.

Aspie_Rocco · February 20, 2019 6:14PM

Thank you all for voting and Mr Feld for the input.
I bid & I won the auction, and paid for the coin.
I hope it is original, since it is a ddo fs102 very hard to find and only a few graded.
I had offered the seller 5x what I paid at auction, if he would have ended early last week. Thems the breaks

Since I am posting before it arrives, I am at the mercy of Murphy’s Law, but hey it can’t happen twice in a month right...? I defy the jinx!

BillJones · February 20, 2019 6:29PM

I think that it may have been dipped. The darker spots by the mint mark should be accompanied by other toning spots. It just looks too bright over all to still have those spots in an isolated spot. I don’t consider dipping to be cleaning, but it can result in unnatural results.

Insider2 · February 20, 2019 6:31PM

Looks like someone tried to remove the black spots on the reverse.

BillJones · February 20, 2019 6:33PM

@Insider2 said:
Looks like someone tried to remove the black spots on the reverse.

Yes, it is lighter in those spots, but if they did work on that spot, they didn’t work on it too hard.

Walkerfan · February 20, 2019 7:08PM

I think it was dipped but not abrasively cleaned, so it is Market acceptable.

bsshog40 · February 20, 2019 7:37PM

I don't even know if that's been dipped. It looks to have some decent luster that dip usually diminishes. I don't think it's been cleaned at all.

lkenefic · February 21, 2019 10:57AM

I don't think it's been cleaned, at least not abrasively so. I'm not sure if it's been dipped. There's still a bit of luster left, and wouldn't dip have taken care of the diffuse black spot on the reverse??

segoja · February 21, 2019 11:17AM

I'm with Bill Jones on this one. Looks like an attempt at removing the dark spots.

If the coin were slabbed, based on the pics I would not sticker it no matter what the grade due to that.

illini420 · February 21, 2019 11:22AM

I didn't think cleaning when seeing the photo, hope it looks good in hand... and remember to not reveal your cherrypicks until you have the coin in hand... been problems with that in the past unfortunately!

davewesen · February 21, 2019 11:25AM

The area at the top of the jacket on the obverse gives me pause, I would look at that area closely when it arrives.

ShipwreckCoinHunter · February 21, 2019 1:05PM

I am conflicted with sum fine lines to the right of the P. It could be a die clash or unfortunately wizzed

Aspie_Rocco · February 21, 2019 1:12PM

This year and variety does has a mild die clash. The spike on the chin and a line from above the ribbon on obverse. There are actually several of the spiked chin clashes in 1943, some even have two spikes

DollarAfterDollar · February 21, 2019 4:57PM

I don't see anything that suggests it was rubbed on or polished up. Chemical cleaning is tough to see in pictures.

Insider2 · February 21, 2019 5:33PM

@BillJones said:

@Insider2 said:
Looks like someone tried to remove the black spots on the reverse.

Yes, it is lighter in those spots, but if they did work on that spot, they didn’t work on it too hard.

You and I probably have a difference of opinion with regard to the degree of "spot removals." When you can see an obvious change of color due to the way the hairlines from the cleaning reflect the light, it is no longer "light work."

Additionally, it appears that the "cartwheel" luster that could lighten parts of the surface is NOT in the position of the bright area over the dome.

ricko · February 22, 2019 6:09AM

I see no evidence of cleaning (rub, hairlines, abrasions).... Good luck, I hope you are happy with the coin. Cheers, RickO

georgiacop50 · February 22, 2019 7:34AM

The rev spots as well as the dark residue about the obv rim look very much like struck-thru polishing compound used in production. BUT I have never seen that stuff on a coin from that era. I have only seen the stuff on a couple IKEs.

If that is what it is (which I think unlikely, even though it DOES look like it) it is impossible to remove.

Also, I am unsure whether the polishing gunk precludes a straight grade at a TPG. @segoja may know, as he has seen a vast number of IKEs.

johnny9434 · February 22, 2019 11:02AM

it does not look it from what I can tell

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