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Distinct differences on the reverse; The vanes on the arrows, E Pluribus Unum ribbon and UNITED STATES OF AMERICA positions, etc...one is an original proof (1st) and one the restrike (2nd)? Those are a couple of beauties!
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Congratulations Bruce, both are terrific coins! The 1827/3 original really is of monumental numismatic importance. Was always valued like an 1804 silver dollar historically, but of course was made in 1827 and not at a much later date for collectors like the 1804. The 1827/3 restrike quarter with die rust clear are sisters to the 1804 restrike Class 3 dollars made at a much later date.
So the pimples/pocks on the reverse of the restrike- for my own education, those for sure are die rust and not some pestilence or corrosion on the coin itself?
BTW, I was surprised to see the significant die rotation on the original. Are there others like that? Made me wonder if the B-1 originals could have been struck on two occasions.
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@MrEureka said:
Great coins and value! I underbid the restrike, which is the best I’ve ever seen.
Thanks! Now I just need my old copper restrike back. And if I really want to complete the set, maybe the Eliasberg early restrike
Was that a 64RB (almost full red with a spotty area) that HA sold quite a while back? I think I was the under-bidder on that. Had the Anderson Dupont back in '99 or so, sold it to Larry Hanks. 65RB but not as flashy. I'm sure the Eliasberg transitional is locatable.
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@MrEureka said:
Great coins and value! I underbid the restrike, which is the best I’ve ever seen.
Thanks! Now I just need my old copper restrike back. And if I really want to complete the set, maybe the Eliasberg early restrike
It's funny. TDN's bad-mouthing my Eliasberg 1827 B-2 Original (that he admits to wanting to buy) really pissed me off. Reminded me of STEWARTBLAY badmouthing coins in upcoming auctions. But rather than responding with something nasty (like telling him what he could do with his two new coins) or challenging him to a public debate (which he would surely decline), I simply re-watched this video where he needlessly pissed away $3.5 million. Now I feel a whole lot better. I'm over it.
Me questioning the die rust called out in the auction description is not ‘bad mouthing ‘ a coin. Calling it an original struck before the other originals is a fine theory if there’s no die rust that’s not apparent on the supposedly later struck originals.
Refute the auction description and speculate away - more power to you. But kindly leave me out of your decade old grudge
Me questioning the die rust called out in the auction description is not ‘bad mouthing ‘ a coin. Calling it an original struck before the other originals is a fine theory if there’s no die rust that’s not apparent on the supposedly later struck originals.
Refute the auction description and speculate away - more power to you. But kindly leave me out of your decade old grudge
No grudge over the decade old thread. I had completely forgotten what you posted back then. The "bad-mouthing" to which I referred was your calling the coin an "early restrike" in the current thread. And even that wouldn't have bothered me if it hadn't been in that context of your expressing an interest in buying the coin. That struck me as rude, cutthroat and obnoxious.
Andy Lustig
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Me questioning the die rust called out in the auction description is not ‘bad mouthing ‘ a coin. Calling it an original struck before the other originals is a fine theory if there’s no die rust that’s not apparent on the supposedly later struck originals.
Refute the auction description and speculate away - more power to you. But kindly leave me out of your decade old grudge
No grudge over the decade old thread. I had completely forgotten what you posted back then. The "bad-mouthing" to which I referred was your calling the coin an "early restrike" in the current thread. And even that wouldn't have bothered me if it hadn't been in that context of your expressing an interest in buying the coin. That struck me as rude, cutthroat and obnoxious.
Wow. Forgive me - quarters are not my specialty. I had no idea that the Eliasberg ‘restrike‘ was considered to be anything other than that. I vaguely recalled the debate from a decade ago and in my mind if the coin had light die rust on the obverse per the catalog description, it was a restrike. I see now, ten years later an assertion the description was in error and there is no die rust.
The venomous slant of your posts is totally uncalled for and insulting.
@MrEureka said:
Great coins and value! I underbid the restrike, which is the best I’ve ever seen.
Thanks! Now I just need my old copper restrike back. And if I really want to complete the set, maybe the Eliasberg early restrike
It's funny. TDN's bad-mouthing my Eliasberg 1827 B-2 Original (that he admits to wanting to buy) really pissed me off. Reminded me of STEWARTBLAY badmouthing coins in upcoming auctions. But rather than responding with something nasty (like telling him what he could do with his two new coins) or challenging him to a public debate (which he would surely decline), I simply re-watched this video where he needlessly pissed away $3.5 million. Now I feel a whole lot better. I'm over it.
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Me questioning the die rust called out in the auction description is not ‘bad mouthing ‘ a coin. Calling it an original struck before the other originals is a fine theory if there’s no die rust that’s not apparent on the supposedly later struck originals.
Refute the auction description and speculate away - more power to you. But kindly leave me out of your decade old grudge
No grudge over the decade old thread. I had completely forgotten what you posted back then. The "bad-mouthing" to which I referred was your calling the coin an "early restrike" in the current thread. And even that wouldn't have bothered me if it hadn't been in that context of your expressing an interest in buying the coin. That struck me as rude, cutthroat and obnoxious.
Wow. Forgive me - quarters are not my specialty. I had no idea that the Eliasberg ‘restrike‘ was considered to be anything other than that. I vaguely recalled the debate from a decade ago and in my mind if the coin had light die rust on the obverse per the catalog description, it was a restrike. I see now, ten years later an assertion the description was in error and there is no die rust.
The venomous slant of your posts is totally uncalled for and insulting.
Apology accepted. Sorry I overreacted.
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@JimTyler said:
I don't know these coins. I'm wondering if that is a little design between the CA of America on the second coin maybe to designate a restrike?
The coins are struck from the same obverse die, which rusted between the original use in 1827 and the restriking 40+ years later. They were struck from completely different reverse dies. The original used a new die, which was re-used in 1828 and then retired. The restrike used a reverse die first used in 1819, then used (in an unrusted but slightly cracked state) to strike the so-called “essays”, and then reused (after it rusted) for the restrikes.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Cufflinks?
Does this mean you are eyeing an 1804 $1 Restrike, so you can have a pair of those, too?
My favorite series!!! Those are some beauties!!!!!!! Holy smokes!!! Nice pick up.
Distinct differences on the reverse; The vanes on the arrows, E Pluribus Unum ribbon and UNITED STATES OF AMERICA positions, etc...one is an original proof (1st) and one the restrike (2nd)? Those are a couple of beauties!
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Pretty pair! I bet the eye appeal makes you smile...Congrats!
Congratulations Bruce, both are terrific coins! The 1827/3 original really is of monumental numismatic importance. Was always valued like an 1804 silver dollar historically, but of course was made in 1827 and not at a much later date for collectors like the 1804. The 1827/3 restrike quarter with die rust clear are sisters to the 1804 restrike Class 3 dollars made at a much later date.
Very nice. Great history.
One can be used as a cornerstone piece in your new digs(?)
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Nice acquisitions...Good detail.... Cheers, RickO
So the pimples/pocks on the reverse of the restrike- for my own education, those for sure are die rust and not some pestilence or corrosion on the coin itself?
Correct
Great coins and value! I underbid the restrike, which is the best I’ve ever seen.
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Thanks! Now I just need my old copper restrike back. And if I really want to complete the set, maybe the Eliasberg early restrike
BTW, I was surprised to see the significant die rotation on the original. Are there others like that? Made me wonder if the B-1 originals could have been struck on two occasions.
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Nice additions!
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I like them too, wished I had bought the Pogue coin some time ago:
https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1827-3-25c-original-ca/85373
Gorgeous coin Privaterarecoincollector
Was that a 64RB (almost full red with a spotty area) that HA sold quite a while back? I think I was the under-bidder on that. Had the Anderson Dupont back in '99 or so, sold it to Larry Hanks. 65RB but not as flashy. I'm sure the Eliasberg transitional is locatable.
Wow, I really like the looks of those.
Great rarity, also.
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Beautiful! Thanks for sharing.
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What makes you think that the Eliasberg “early restrike “ is a restrike?
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Yes we’ve had that discussion before
Oh, to be a “fly on the wall” when you view these beautiful busties!
Sorry, I don’t remember your answer from before. I’m sure it was well reasoned, though.
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Lovely coins. I appreciate your truly generous giveaway.
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Nice video!
1/10 of .... ?
Beautiful addition .... Bravo
Wtf?
My thoughts exactly.
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Me questioning the die rust called out in the auction description is not ‘bad mouthing ‘ a coin. Calling it an original struck before the other originals is a fine theory if there’s no die rust that’s not apparent on the supposedly later struck originals.
Refute the auction description and speculate away - more power to you. But kindly leave me out of your decade old grudge
No grudge over the decade old thread. I had completely forgotten what you posted back then. The "bad-mouthing" to which I referred was your calling the coin an "early restrike" in the current thread. And even that wouldn't have bothered me if it hadn't been in that context of your expressing an interest in buying the coin. That struck me as rude, cutthroat and obnoxious.
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Wow. Forgive me - quarters are not my specialty. I had no idea that the Eliasberg ‘restrike‘ was considered to be anything other than that. I vaguely recalled the debate from a decade ago and in my mind if the coin had light die rust on the obverse per the catalog description, it was a restrike. I see now, ten years later an assertion the description was in error and there is no die rust.
The venomous slant of your posts is totally uncalled for and insulting.
and that’s when the fight started
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Apology accepted. Sorry I overreacted.
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I don't know these coins. I'm wondering if that is a little design between the CA of America on the second coin maybe to designate a restrike?
The coins are struck from the same obverse die, which rusted between the original use in 1827 and the restriking 40+ years later. They were struck from completely different reverse dies. The original used a new die, which was re-used in 1828 and then retired. The restrike used a reverse die first used in 1819, then used (in an unrusted but slightly cracked state) to strike the so-called “essays”, and then reused (after it rusted) for the restrikes.
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