Anyone seen this FUN Chain Cent?
Anyone seen this coin in hand? Thoughts?
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Yes, I saw it as soon as I received the catalog with the piece on the cover. It’s been exhibited at some FUN shows in the non competitive category which probably means few people took the time to look at it.
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The coin is amazing.....It could have 65'd. I love the coin. Its so original.
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Pretty amazing looking gem. That would be noteworthy in anyone's collection (pretty much stating the obvious I guess.)
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Have not seen in person, but its simply stunning based on the photo's, would be a good match to my 1794, problem is, this one is not in my budget!!!
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truly amazing
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That is a beautiful Chain Cent.... I still hope to find one of those in the old stone houses/foundations in this historical area (Yes, there are houses here from the late 1600's and on). Cheers, RickO
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My mouth won't stop watering!
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I love the EAC 55 grade! This Chain set is going to bring some decent money no matter what the “grade”.
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Gorgeous.
John
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It's nice that Heritage is using PCGS images now which I noticed a little while back. This way the image will be retained by Heritage even if the coin drops out of cert verification for whatever reason.
Here's the full TrueView.
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/35744104
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I could sell off my house and get this astounding coin - but then it would be hard living under a Chain Cent!
I wish Heritage would twirl the coin around in the video, in hand. That would really show it off!
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@JOsborne said:
https://coins.ha.com/itm/large-cents/1793-1c-chain-ameri-s-1-b-1-r4-ms64-brown-pcgs-secure-cac/a/1291-4312.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515Anyone seen this coin in hand? Thoughts?
If you're thinking of bidding you should get someone to check it out for you
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Love the personal story. How many of us take notes like this for our coins?
Alan Weinberg's Commentary. Acquired privately from Ted Naftzger at my kitchen table at 4 P.M. on New Year's Eve 1996. We were both going out that evening. Ted had called me as a direct result of my classified ad in Penny Wise for nice Chain cents. We had not known each other beforehand. He drove out from Beverly Hills in an old beatup station wagon. Ted told me he had acquired this coin in 1947 from Tom Elder's son-in-law and vest pocket dealer, Paul Seitz, for $1,000. He never showed it to Dr. Sheldon as he feared the coin would be "gone." He told me he actually favored it over the brown, lustreless but somewhat prooflike Parmelee AMERI. sold to Streiner, which is slabbed SP65. Ted quoted me a price I could not immediately afford and I moved it back across the table to him. He pocketed it. We chatted for an hour and then, out of the blue, he offered "terms." Two years to pay. I'll take it. We shook hands and he departed. Wait a minute Ted, don't you want something on paper. No, I trust you. Ted was like that, having once mailed an Uncirculated 1793 half cent in a first class mail envelope as he wanted to avoid post office lines. Two years later he sold me at my same kitchen table his ex-Garrett AMERI. cud cent in this same auction with "terms." Perhaps the most rewarding classified ad in numismatic history! Two superb Chain AMERI. cents from one tiny ad.
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its a 2 Million USD coin or more.
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The original mint red showing through the links just knocks my socks off. Talk about originality. it's coins like this that attracted me to this crazy hobby in the first place.
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I am not normally a fan of the Chain Cent, but this one is definitely a beauty!
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That's one amazing penny!!!
Would love to see that one in hand!!
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@privaterarecoincollector said:
its a 2 Million USD coin or more.Not in this market
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Wow. One more time: Wow.
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Dream coin for this type set collector. IMO pretty much unimprovable. Thanks for showing.
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I've seen that coin when it was featured in a coin show exhibit, and I've held that coin in hand raw. In hand, it looks far better than the TrueView even shows!! It simply sparkles with incredible luster.
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@cardinal said:
I've seen that coin when it was featured in a coin show exhibit, and I've held that coin in hand raw. In hand, it looks far better than the TrueView even shows!! It simply sparkles with incredible luster.How would you compare it with the other specimen? Have you seen that one?
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@Zoins said:
@cardinal said:
I've seen that coin when it was featured in a coin show exhibit, and I've held that coin in hand raw. In hand, it looks far better than the TrueView even shows!! It simply sparkles with incredible luster.How would you compare it with the other specimen? Have you seen that one?
Apples and oranges
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@tradedollarnut said:
@Zoins said:
@cardinal said:
I've seen that coin when it was featured in a coin show exhibit, and I've held that coin in hand raw. In hand, it looks far better than the TrueView even shows!! It simply sparkles with incredible luster.How would you compare it with the other specimen? Have you seen that one?
Apples and oranges
Well, the grades are compared in the listing.
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@Zoins said:
@cardinal said:
I've seen that coin when it was featured in a coin show exhibit, and I've held that coin in hand raw. In hand, it looks far better than the TrueView even shows!! It simply sparkles with incredible luster.How would you compare it with the other specimen? Have you seen that one?
As TDN said, they are not readily comparable. The SP65 Ameri. cent is wholly prooflike, and the MS64+ Ameri. cent displays sparkling cartwheel luster. It's a bit like comparing the SP66 1794 Dollar to the MS66+ 1794 Dollar -- the former absolutely unique on its own, while the latter is finest of the remaining population of the business-strike specimens.
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private, please tell me you are NOT on it!! $2 million is a bit crazy for this market.
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If I could get 20yr terms I might be able to swing it.Make that 50
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@specialist said:
private, please tell me you are NOT on it!! $2 million is a bit crazy for this market.no Im not on it. I think the coin is undergraded compared to all the other PCGS 65s out there. Easily 65 RB. Whats the value of a 65 RB Ameri Chain Cent ?
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its a problem a bit with the grades again, this coin is 64 for scratches but unc. - some other PCGS 65 are not unc.
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maybe 1.5 Million is the right number.
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@specialist said:
private, please tell me you are NOT on it!! $2 million is a bit crazy for this market.hope you get it cheap.
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I think it will be about a million....
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Here's a great thread on the SP65 Ameri. One of the best threads ever.
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that's wicked nice
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I don't see this as RB more TRB trace red brown.
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@specialist said:
I think it will be about a million....now Im bidding !! (joke)
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@JOsborne said:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/810890/legend-tdns-new-sp65-chain-ameri-well-i-guess-i-should-just-give-upHere's a great thread on the SP65 Ameri. One of the best threads ever.
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How do you interpret the meaning of this sentence? Does he mean Dr. Sheldon would have offered a price he couldn't turn down, or something more sinister?
He never showed it to Dr. Sheldon as he feared the coin would be "gone."
@Zoins said:
Love the personal story. How many of us take notes like this for our coins?Alan Weinberg's Commentary. Acquired privately from Ted Naftzger at my kitchen table at 4 P.M. on New Year's Eve 1996. We were both going out that evening. Ted had called me as a direct result of my classified ad in Penny Wise for nice Chain cents. We had not known each other beforehand. He drove out from Beverly Hills in an old beatup station wagon. Ted told me he had acquired this coin in 1947 from Tom Elder's son-in-law and vest pocket dealer, Paul Seitz, for $1,000. He never showed it to Dr. Sheldon as he feared the coin would be "gone." He told me he actually favored it over the brown, lustreless but somewhat prooflike Parmelee AMERI. sold to Streiner, which is slabbed SP65. Ted quoted me a price I could not immediately afford and I moved it back across the table to him. He pocketed it. We chatted for an hour and then, out of the blue, he offered "terms." Two years to pay. I'll take it. We shook hands and he departed. Wait a minute Ted, don't you want something on paper. No, I trust you. Ted was like that, having once mailed an Uncirculated 1793 half cent in a first class mail envelope as he wanted to avoid post office lines. Two years later he sold me at my same kitchen table his ex-Garrett AMERI. cud cent in this same auction with "terms." Perhaps the most rewarding classified ad in numismatic history! Two superb Chain AMERI. cents from one tiny ad.
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Is it weird that I would be equally as pleased with a nice, smooth, choice VF? Not to rain on anyone's parade, but...
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
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LOL on the CAC sticker covering the Gold Shield!!!!
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@btcollects said:
@opportunity said:
Is it weird that I would be equally as pleased with a nice, smooth, choice VF? Not to rain on anyone's parade, but...I appreciate and admire pristine early coinage, but I prefer circulated coins because I can imagine how people used them in commerce
That's what I'm saying, too. Don't get me wrong, I've held coins like that worth hundreds of thousands in my hands in awe, and they were fun to look at and all, but...
Early American Copper, Bust and Seated.
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@Wabbit2313 said:
LOL on the CAC sticker covering the Gold Shield!!!!When the text is shifted to the right, you have to put the sticker on the left, otherwise the text is covered.
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Definitely a beautiful coin. The lady liberty on that coin doesn't appear to be 'in a fright'..
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@opportunity said:
@btcollects said:
@opportunity said:
Is it weird that I would be equally as pleased with a nice, smooth, choice VF? Not to rain on anyone's parade, but...I appreciate and admire pristine early coinage, but I prefer circulated coins because I can imagine how people used them in commerce
That's what I'm saying, too. Don't get me wrong, I've held coins like that worth hundreds of thousands in my hands in awe, and they were fun to look at and all, but...
The other thing is that with cheaper, circulated coins, you can literally hold the coin which gives a different feel.
I think both kinds of coins are great.
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@OriginalDan said:
@Wabbit2313 said:
LOL on the CAC sticker covering the Gold Shield!!!!When the text is shifted to the right, you have to put the sticker on the left, otherwise the text is covered.
You have an astute command of the obvious! I restate, LOL!!!!
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@Wabbit2313 said:
@OriginalDan said:
@Wabbit2313 said:
LOL on the CAC sticker covering the Gold Shield!!!!When the text is shifted to the right, you have to put the sticker on the left, otherwise the text is covered.
You have an astute command of the obvious! I restate, LOL!!!!
Well, this forum loves to overlook the obvious and go straight to the explanation with more drama.
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