I'm showing my age, poor eyesight and ignorance: The coin is a FINE but NGC probably graded it VF-20! Some of the loss of detail is due to strike or worn dies.
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VF30; and I'll try to embellish a potential auction listing, feel free to borrow my comments.
A singularly well circulated piece without any notable major detractions. As the coin was struck Millard Fillmore was President, with Franklin Pierce to take soon to take over the helm; the Gadsen Purchase was being finalized. The California gold rush was still in full swing, with many '49ers returning to their places of origin far wealthier than when they ventured West. "My Old Kentucky Home" was published by Stephen Foster. Roger Taney was chief justice of the Supreme Court and the Levi Strauss jean company was founded in San Francisco. A good year for a $2 1/2 gold coin to be minted....
@Insider2 said:
I'm showing my age, poor eyesight and ignorance: The coin is a FINE but NGC probably graded it VF-20! Some of the loss of detail is due to strike or worn dies.
Actually, only 2 of us, lol. One guy said w/details, which I assume means he think it was cleaned or something. lol
I wasn’t exactly sure he meant that instead of just a casual ‘40 details’ .... not necessarily meaning a problem coin .... but if so, then even less than 10% !
What I meant by "the details are there" is... taking into consideration a weaker strike, the details warrant a 40. I said this because I was on the fence for 35, but I talked myself into 40 because " the details are there"...
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
I saw the coin and the contest and agreed with the assigned grade. It's the reverse that throws you off you cannot grade that which was never there to begin with. Which is another reason why I don't collect 2 1/2 gold coins. They are a quite the study.
@lkenefic said:
What I meant by "the details are there" is... taking into consideration a weaker strike, the details warrant a 40. I said this because I was on the fence for 35, but I talked myself into 40 because " the details are there"...
I wasn’t taking about you. You guessed AFTER I posted the reveal ....
@lkenefic said:
What I meant by "the details are there" is... taking into consideration a weaker strike, the details warrant a 40. I said this because I was on the fence for 35, but I talked myself into 40 because " the details are there"...
Yeah, I was talking about another guesser said EF40 w/details. Usually that means they think it got a details grade, not a straight grade.
Ownership adds a few points, but, @SeattleSlammer , from this poll, it looks like your photography skills subtract a few
(that said, mine would subtract even more...but, being the holiday season and all, I figured I'd give you a good teasing )
@lkenefic said:
What I meant by "the details are there" is... taking into consideration a weaker strike, the details warrant a 40. I said this because I was on the fence for 35, but I talked myself into 40 because " the details are there"...
Yeah, I was talking about another guesser said EF40 w/details. Usually that means they think it got a details grade, not a straight grade.
I see that now...
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
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35
What he said.
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EF-40 W/DETAILS
35 was my gut reaction but what do I know?
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Put me in the 35 group.
VF30, congrats
30
35.
30
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40
I'm showing my age, poor eyesight
and ignorance: The coin is a FINE but NGC probably graded it VF-20! Some of the loss of detail is due to strike or worn dies.
VF-20 because she can't hear what I said.
Pete
I'll go VF-30
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VF-30 !!!
VF-25
XF45
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30
30 sounds about right
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25?
VF-25. Nice well balanced coin!
25 camp here.
20 or 25, cleaned, but that won't be mentioned.
I agree because it hasn't to any degree that would be detracting.
It looks like a VF-25 to me.
I am at 20.
VF30; and I'll try to embellish a potential auction listing, feel free to borrow my comments.
A singularly well circulated piece without any notable major detractions. As the coin was struck Millard Fillmore was President, with Franklin Pierce to take soon to take over the helm; the Gadsen Purchase was being finalized. The California gold rush was still in full swing, with many '49ers returning to their places of origin far wealthier than when they ventured West. "My Old Kentucky Home" was published by Stephen Foster. Roger Taney was chief justice of the Supreme Court and the Levi Strauss jean company was founded in San Francisco. A good year for a $2 1/2 gold coin to be minted....
65+
pcgs 25
ngc 30
35
Latin American Collection
I will go with VF 25. Thanks
I say XF40
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I'm in the xf40 camp. I think it's a bit of a weak strike, but the details are there...
Edited to add: haha... looks like I was 1 minute late to the party!
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Vf 15
Actually, only 2 of us, lol. One guy said w/details, which I assume means he think it was cleaned or something. lol
Those look like PCGS prongs to my eyes 😉
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I wasn’t exactly sure he meant that instead of just a casual ‘40 details’ .... not necessarily meaning a problem coin .... but if so, then even less than 10% !
Nice work man.
What I meant by "the details are there" is... taking into consideration a weaker strike, the details warrant a 40. I said this because I was on the fence for 35, but I talked myself into 40 because " the details are there"...
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No fair! My grading standards are from the 1980s! Lol.
Its graded wrong
I saw the coin and the contest and agreed with the assigned grade. It's the reverse that throws you off you cannot grade that which was never there to begin with. Which is another reason why I don't collect 2 1/2 gold coins. They are a quite the study.
Nice
I wasn’t taking about you. You guessed AFTER I posted the reveal ....
Yeah, I was talking about another guesser said EF40 w/details. Usually that means they think it got a details grade, not a straight grade.
No Offense! But the coin looks much better in this pic!
Nice coin, but the reverse looks weak for a 40.
Eh, I don't think it does. The old reverse of these just looks worn in general. Here is another 40:

And check out the reverse of this au58. Yikes:

I would have said 35.
Ownership adds a few points, but, @SeattleSlammer , from this poll, it looks like your photography skills subtract a few
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(that said, mine would subtract even more...but, being the holiday season and all, I figured I'd give you a good teasing
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I see that now...
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